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Old 03-12-2007, 02:09 PM
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Added cam idle video to first post.

My car is 100% full weight ws6 minus spare tire and jack. I weigh 255lbs.
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What you go on a diet for our race? LOL
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
You cant make that much compression really on unmilled stock heads, and you cant advance a 240 dur lobe that far before you hit apiston. About a 106-107 intake centerline is as far forward as your gonna get.
So with that said, what is the compression on this setup 347?

Give us the full specs!!

I read your posts, but maybe I missed something.

Thanks!
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HOLY CRAP...nice numbers
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
LMFAO... We have made 440rwhp 4 times at our shop cam only.... Now this guy hundreds of miles away does it and its not real

I guess SmokinStorm that made the fake 450rwhp unlocked and is now running 10.70s@126mph with the same camshaft in an A4 is lying also... Along with Brad02Z06 who made over 500rwhp with heads/FAST/Our Vindicator camshaft/ Or how bout Dre01Z06 that made 440rwhp with an LS6 intake/stock heads.... The list goes on and on... but so do the haters
I'm not a hater what so ever. Asking questions is far from straight up calling bullshit. You didn't answer them either. How does a stock headed, ls6 intake, bolt on car with a HORRIBLE exhaust, 4.10 gears(we know these soak up power) a 240/244 cam with poor DCR and make 380rwtq @ 3k rpms? Or 440rwhp for that matter? I could understand if this was a max-effort fully optimized combo, but its falling rather short of that don't you think? I can easily see a z06 make 435-440rwhp with a good sized cam because of the heads(ls6) and the bump in compression.
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If the LSA is a 112 and it is advanced 4 degrees for a 108 ICL. That would make the DCR 7.95 with the SCR being 10.37 on a stock head LS1.

Correct me if my numbers are off.


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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
I'm not a hater what so ever. Asking questions is far from straight up calling bullshit. You didn't answer them either. How does a stock headed, ls6 intake, bolt on car with a HORRIBLE exhaust, 4.10 gears(we know these soak up power) a 240/244 cam with poor DCR and make 380rwtq @ 3k rpms? Or 440rwhp for that matter? I could understand if this was a max-effort fully optimized combo, but its falling rather short of that don't you think? I can easily see a z06 make 435-440rwhp with a good sized cam because of the heads(ls6) and the bump in compression.

I really don't know what else to say except lets just see what she runs after Sat.

As far as compression, it is 100% stock. heads have never been lifted off this car. I do have the heads with the triangle under the spark plugs (SPM tooling). Other than that, don't know what else to tell people except for hopefully she traps 122+.
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nice numbers. what kind of power did you make when you trapped 115 with boltons? thats a fast bolt on car.
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Shoudl be about 3550 or so, maybe 3500. Drag radials on welds, leather interior M6, reg battery up front, 3 optima batteries in the back for wheelie weight, ( I get bored easy) no top part of the back seats, no spare tire, tubular k memmber/a arms

Ive only made 6 passes with the car, and only 2 where I could get it to go into every gear. With it making 410 I wont think its 100% until it goes 124. Lose the stock mufflers it makes 435, and I expect 126 or so once everything is lined out.

Even dynojet type numbers, 440 Id be expecting 122 at 3600 or a bit more lbs

3550lbs, 410rwhp & 124 traps??? you better have some damn good weather and driving.
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
3550lbs, 410rwhp & 124 traps??? you better have some damn good weather and driving.
His Mustang Dyno hurts peopls feelings.

But the cars run at the track
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance

Go hit some 120s in th 1/4!!!!! Just think... TrickFlows and a FAST 90 and you are in the 500rwhp club

Make me that sweet labor free deal you offered a few weeks ago, and I will drive down there within the month. Money is ready and waiting...
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Originally Posted by 347fairless
I really don't know what else to say except lets just see what she runs after Sat.

As far as compression, it is 100% stock. heads have never been lifted off this car. I do have the heads with the triangle under the spark plugs (SPM tooling). Other than that, don't know what else to tell people except for hopefully she traps 122+.
Hey man, its all good Good luck at the track man, hope you hit them traps you're looking for. Would be sweet
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SOmeone knows how to tune the hell out of a car is all i can say.. Ive never seen a cam only car get numbers like that awesome man purely awesome.
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go to the track and get it done. i have no doubt it should turn out good for ya. hurry and let us konw
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
A cutout's worth 20-30rwhp over the flowmaster,
Thats funny, the most I have seen a car pick up from a flowmaster to open cutout is 10 hp
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
Thats funny, the most I have seen a car pick up from a flowmaster to open cutout is 10 hp
Years ago mine picked up 20 with a cut out.

Flowmaster sucks .....but it sounded good.
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
Thats funny, the most I have seen a car pick up from a flowmaster to open cutout is 10 hp
The more you are trying to push through it, the more you lose...
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Wow very nice numbers. 400lbs of torque at 3500rpm. I cant wait to see the track times. Man the bar just keeps getting higher and higher.
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i put down 444.4 and am traping 120's and 130's on the bottle all i can say is harris speed works cant be that far off because my car proves itself time and time especialy on the street. good luck time for some juice now
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
I'm not a hater what so ever. Asking questions is far from straight up calling bullshit. You didn't answer them either. How does a stock headed, ls6 intake, bolt on car with a HORRIBLE exhaust, 4.10 gears(we know these soak up power) a 240/244 cam with poor DCR and make 380rwtq @ 3k rpms? Or 440rwhp for that matter? I could understand if this was a max-effort fully optimized combo, but its falling rather short of that don't you think? I can easily see a z06 make 435-440rwhp with a good sized cam because of the heads(ls6) and the bump in compression.
You are not in the wrong. High numbers get questioned. The fast cars get questioned. Nascar tears down cars after every race. The problem is that some people and some shops refuse to believe their dyno might be more friendly than others, or maybe they are tweaking things on purpose for higher numbers. I don't know. But they don't see doubt or a want of proof as anything other than criticism, bs calls, and cheap shots. In my experince these types of people have something to hide. Most people on the legit up and up have no trouble backing up their claims.


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