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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by d-1sc408
ya the car is still runing good i actual went up in boost to 14 psi and the car made 728 and 618 but ya the car is still running like a ****

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Sick, dude. Have you been back to the track with the new numbers? Get it there before it blows!!! Anyone know what the 1/4 record is on a stock bottom end?

BTW, guys, it really doesn't seem like he cares too much about the bottom end. I'm sure after all of this he is well aware that it may not last long.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach

BTW, guys, it really doesn't seem like he cares too much about the bottom end. I'm sure after all of this he is well aware that it may not last long.
If he is totally aware, then you would need to replace the word "may" with the word "will" in your statement.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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If he is totally aware, then you would need to replace the word "may" with the word "will" in your statement.
That's what people told him back in July when it was first dynoed and raced. He said he has a lot of fun with it and he hit low 10s first time out, so I'm assuming he doesn't baby it. We all know it SHOULDN'T last very long, but I carefully chose the word "may" based on the fact that it's still together, which goes against what everyone thought the first time around.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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9.64 or 63 is the record for a stock bottom end

but god damn 14psi and a stock bottom end thats pretty sweet! have fun with it i know i would! great numbers
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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the way the car feels on 14 psi i would dought that the car would run mid 9's the car is super strong.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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Good Luck! Nice numbers!!
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by d-1sc408
i made one run in the car it went 10.15 at 134 and i got kicked out of the track
Was that on the 26 or 28" tire and were you in 4th or 5th when you went through the traps?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
Was that on the 26 or 28" tire and were you in 4th or 5th when you went through the traps?
it was with a 28 tall tire and i was in 4th
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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damn man thats just a prue beast there cant wait till the new #'s on 14#'s of boost
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by d-1sc408
it was with a 28 tall tire and i was in 4th
How do those 28" tires fit...rolled fenders? What RPM through the traps? Had to be close to redline I'm guessing...the 28s helped I am sure.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
How do those 28" tires fit...rolled fenders? What RPM through the traps? Had to be close to redline I'm guessing...the 28s helped I am sure.
ya the car was right before the red line i think i was at 6700 rpm red line 7000
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:13 AM
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I think with the 26's you would be in 5th through the traps.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Its definitely going to pop, matter of when not if.

It comes on really late in the torque curve so that helps it a bit but

8 lbs of boost, pump gas and alot less timing than that is what we do and made 550/500 on stock longblock trapped 130, and made 630-640 with about 10 degrees less than what you have and full point richer almost. It survived about 70 pulls on our loaded Mustang dyno (you get away with ALOT on a dynojet) and beating alot on the street and road course. A blower car will pick up considerably leanign it out and giving it timing, but its not going to treat you right for long. Safen it up a bit and enjoy it much longer!

big block yeah Id expect low to mid 10s out of it, ifthe torque curve is healthy near 135 mph traps
Well.. there is one problem.. Its a 6-speed car been gone through- all the rubber mounts, replaced with solid, spec 4 clutch, discs, etc.. the car is leaned out alot- and is still rich smelling.. ive been told thats what you want with a blower/procharger car?? Sorry for the long time on the response.. just want to know what all else i can do/ or if what i have is right.. Im thinking this spring for a retune... also.. should buy some 16inch zr1 wheels?? and some slicks
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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BB thats not a problem, that what it shoudl be capable of for sure.

if it smells really rich then it is really rich and thats not good for anything sitting there idling if its WAY rich.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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That is insane power on the bottow end. Good luck with it.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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This kinda gives me some faith in my stock bottom end if I ever have the funds for a turbo or blower kit.Knowing my luck though, 5-8psi on my car and it will probably quit on me.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by z28misfit
This kinda gives me some faith in my stock bottom end if I ever have the funds for a turbo or blower kit.Knowing my luck though, 5-8psi on my car and it will probably quit on me.
There's two kinds of people that run 7+ pounds of boost on stock bottom ends. Those who have blown their stock motors, and those who will. You can fineagle it down to give yourself the best chances, like meth injection, fuel system upgrade, intercooling, great safe tune, but even with all that, your still putting boost to a high CR non forged internal engine that was not meant for it. Some guys like the OP might argue that they have put miles on their stock supercharged motors without problems. The truth is, you might make it 25,000 miles, or you might make it 2500 miles, but eventually something will give. Even with a smaller boost amount (say 4-6#'s), you will have more wear on your engine than if you stayed NA, and I doubt it lasts as long as it would otherwise.

Its exciting hearing of insane power being made on the stock bottom end with superchargers, however for every 1 guy like that, there are 10 more that were once there, and now are looking for a new motor.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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yeah i know, you see threads like this and think,WOW, maybe the stock bottoms ends are really good. But like you said, no one knows for sure how reliable it will be. For a dd, I wouldn't risk boosting too much.I would like to do something like this but my car only see's about 5,000miles a year. So I could probably get away with it for some time on 5-8psi.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by z28misfit
yeah i know, you see threads like this and think,WOW, maybe the stock bottoms ends are really good. But like you said, no one knows for sure how reliable it will be. For a dd, I wouldn't risk boosting too much.I would like to do something like this but my car only see's about 5,000miles a year. So I could probably get away with it for some time on 5-8psi.
Well, thats just it. They aren't reliable. You might make it a few years only on 5k a year, or you might not make it to your first oil change. You are rolling the dice either way. Sooner or later, you number will be up though.

The big point I am trying to make on all this is, why go through all the trouble? You're going to spend thousands on a supercharger, and if you want to have any chances of having your stock bottom end hold together you'll spend thousands on all the supporting mods like fuel system, intercoolers, tune, ect.,. And then with only 5-8#'s of boost you're still risking blowing your stock motor and being in a much bigger expense dilema. Not to mention at all that 5-8#'s of boost really won't yeild you a ton of power like you might think it would. It wouldn't be nearly as cost efficient as just staying NA and going with a good heads, cam, and intake combo would.

The right way to go boosted, would be to have your engine built for the boost, with a lower than factory CR, and forged internals. Then you can have peace of mind that when you go boosted it is made for it, and will consistantly take the abuse of boost on a daily basis. This is much more expensive, as you still need to spend all the other thousands on the supporting mods, as well as the blower, not to mention tranny/clutch, rear, driveshaft ect., and if you want to be able to use any of that power, you'll need suspension as well. All said and done to do it right, you're talking about $14,000-$20,000. You can save by going with parts like Summit, or Eagle, or you can have a much stronger/expensive engine and go with parts like Lunati, and Oliver. Either way to do it all right, it's not cheep at all, and thats why people look for the easy way there like the OP.
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