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Old 03-01-2008, 11:39 PM
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Default C5 - AFR 205s - 492rwhp

So I had a chance to help out on yet another successful Mamo project, this time it was a C5 with AFR 205 and a decent cam (I'll let Mr. Mamo spill the details on the setup). This turned out to be a very stout setup with a clean powerband.



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wow thats nice!! i def wanna here details about this setup if possible!!

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that is good
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Thats great! Good numbers
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Over 380ft/lbs from 3000rpm...nice
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The top sheet says "flywheel" HP/TQ...is this an engine dyno or chassis?
Edit: nevermind, I see it says "chassis dynamometers" on it too...nice numbers indeed!

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Killer numbers George. Looks like another solid combo.
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Wow that makes great power, some info on the setup would be appreciated.
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AFR always pulling awesome numbers.

Great work man.

More info PLZ???
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Thats a lot of torque from a 346 !! Great job. Need a few details, cam, compression, etc
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I will update this thread later with all the specs etc....

Basically and attention to all the small details build (91 octane)....medium sixed cam (G5X3 on a 112 LSA)

More info later...

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WOW thats even more awesome with 91.

So any word on the AFR 235???
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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
I will update this thread later with all the specs etc....

Basically and attention to all the small details build (91 octane)....medium sixed cam (G5X3 on a 112 LSA)

More info later...

Tony
dam you tony!!! lol jk

when im ready for heads im def gonna give you a call to help me figure out a good combo

-brandon
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Solid power right there, no doubt through a special 90mm intake?
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Default The ingredients in the recipe....

Here is the laundry list of parts guys....

Stock '98 LS1 block with ARP rod bolts, flycut pistons, blueprinted oil pump
JWIS timing chain
G5X3 112 cam with stock lifters
AFR 205 59cc heads that I did some light porting and clean up work (still 205cc runners)
AFR 8019 valve springs
Cometic .040 headgasket
Crane Gold 1.7 roller rockers with hardened pushrods
FAST 90/90 that I ported of course (ported LS2 TB as well)
42# matched injectors
VaraRam CAI
LG LT headers w/CATS
25% UD pulley
Meziere EWP
DeWitts radiator w/EOC
Canton Accusump
Exedy Twin disk clutch
DTE built 3.73, hardened axle, DTE Strutbrace

A few things to note....this engine would have probably made about 500 with some additional tuning and some octane additive. George was fighting some knock retard (on straight 91) and was only able to sneak in 26' of timing upstairs. Every AFR headed combo I have been involved in has liked 28-29 degrees at peak and after peak power for the best numbers (a little less at peak TQ).

Speaking of peak TQ, this combo made ludicrous TQ but had everything going for it to make that a reality. All of its components were optimized, accessory robbing power minimized, lightweight low inertia clutch design, small high flow intake and exhaust runners (they were optimized 205's), LG Pro longtubes, stout static CR (about 11.5 to one), and moderate cam timing with an earlier intake closing point due to the 112 LSA. Had this engine been built around a 113-114 LSA cam with more duration it would have been very similar to a combo I was involved in a year ago that put up 510/440 (the bigger stick on a wider LSA would have enhanced peak power and reduced peak TQ, but allowed it to hang on longer which is the reason more power is produced).

This combo is ideal for street brawling, drag racing, or even road racing with that fat midrange grunt, but it would take pretty sticky tires to hook most of the power up.

Another combo where all the details were paid attention to with the end results justifying the extra time and money needed to make that happen.

Good stuff....

Tony
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WOW thats fantastic Tony!!! thanks for the run down.

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When John (the car owner) took it for a test drive, it had amazing power throughout the power band.

I will have to invest in a neck brace for future AFR combos.
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Hey Tony, thanks for all the details. I was looking over the setup and comparing it to mine and the only differences are the cam, injectors, 3.73 gear vs my 3.42, and the fact that you ported the intake, t/b, and cleaned up the heads. Louis from LGM did a hell of a job porting my FAST and NW t/b. As you know I made 490 rwhp 445 rwtq on LGM's dynojet. I also have a tune based on 93 octane. I think timing is 28*'s. Very similar combos. I'd like to know what my combo would do if you had cleaned up my AFR 205's ? You seemed to be able to squeeze every last hp/tq out of a motor.


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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR






This combo is ideal for street brawling, drag racing, or even road racing with that fat midrange grunt, but it would take pretty sticky tires to hook most of the power up.
No kidding about lack of traction. I couldn't get much until I hit 3rd gear. That was at the track with Nitto Drags (305 35r18's) I tried different psi's too, everything between 30 all the way down to 19 psi. Even after spinning them to heat them up I couldn't get them to hook. Just wanted to post up to back up Tony's comments about midrange grunt. Now here is something funny, I don't have much issue hooking on the street (newer asphalt summer time temps) after driving around a bit. Just my 2 cents.
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Very impressive results.



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