So apparantly stock 04 GTOs are now........
12-12-2008, 12:30 PM
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OMG now one guys is claiming to have gone 12.7 @ 109 mph in his completely bone stock LS1 GTO.
Here is a link to the thread. These guys are delusional. http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282130
Here is a link to the thread. These guys are delusional. http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282130
12-12-2008, 01:23 PM
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I think at the track the GTO's (04) are going to perform the times mentioned at the track. I'am sure and know for a fact that you could get a bolt-on 04 Goat A4 or M6 into the high 12's.
As people know, well some of us, on the street with all the variables and other things, not always the faster car has the advantage or going to win.
All looking at a track and street perspective:
Stock for stock, an Ls1 F-body vs. 04 GTO any tranny, my money is on the F-Body.
Stock F-body vs. Bolt-on 04 GTO: Drivers race/close call. I would still be backing the F-body at this point.
Stock F-body vs. Stock LS2 GTO, drivers race/close call.
Bolt on 04 GTO vs. a C5. C5 all the way, street or strip.
However a LS2 Goat vs. a C5 (NON-Z06) its a drivers race.
These are all based on what I've seen and what I think or you could predict when looking at specs on paper.
My $0.02 cents.
As people know, well some of us, on the street with all the variables and other things, not always the faster car has the advantage or going to win.
All looking at a track and street perspective:
Stock for stock, an Ls1 F-body vs. 04 GTO any tranny, my money is on the F-Body.
Stock F-body vs. Bolt-on 04 GTO: Drivers race/close call. I would still be backing the F-body at this point.
Stock F-body vs. Stock LS2 GTO, drivers race/close call.
Bolt on 04 GTO vs. a C5. C5 all the way, street or strip.
However a LS2 Goat vs. a C5 (NON-Z06) its a drivers race.
These are all based on what I've seen and what I think or you could predict when looking at specs on paper.
My $0.02 cents.
12-12-2008, 01:48 PM
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OMG now one guys is claiming to have gone 12.7 @ 109 mph in his completely bone stock LS1 GTO.
Here is a link to the thread. These guys are delusional. http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282130
Here is a link to the thread. These guys are delusional. http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282130
https://ls1tech.com/forums/12-second...-12s-neva.html
12-20-2008, 03:11 AM
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I think at the track the GTO's (04) are going to perform the times mentioned at the track. I'am sure and know for a fact that you could get a bolt-on 04 Goat A4 or M6 into the high 12's.
As people know, well some of us, on the street with all the variables and other things, not always the faster car has the advantage or going to win.
All looking at a track and street perspective:
Stock for stock, an Ls1 F-body vs. 04 GTO any tranny, my money is on the F-Body.
Stock F-body vs. Bolt-on 04 GTO: Drivers race/close call. I would still be backing the F-body at this point.
Stock F-body vs. Stock LS2 GTO, drivers race/close call.
Bolt on 04 GTO vs. a C5. C5 all the way, street or strip.
However a LS2 Goat vs. a C5 (NON-Z06) its a drivers race.
These are all based on what I've seen and what I think or you could predict when looking at specs on paper.
My $0.02 cents.
As people know, well some of us, on the street with all the variables and other things, not always the faster car has the advantage or going to win.
All looking at a track and street perspective:
Stock for stock, an Ls1 F-body vs. 04 GTO any tranny, my money is on the F-Body.
Stock F-body vs. Bolt-on 04 GTO: Drivers race/close call. I would still be backing the F-body at this point.
Stock F-body vs. Stock LS2 GTO, drivers race/close call.
Bolt on 04 GTO vs. a C5. C5 all the way, street or strip.
However a LS2 Goat vs. a C5 (NON-Z06) its a drivers race.
These are all based on what I've seen and what I think or you could predict when looking at specs on paper.
My $0.02 cents.
When it comes to the LS2 GTO I've seen a few of them beat F-Bods stock vs stock. The LS2 had the stronger top end in those races. Also most of the races I've heard of the LS2 GTO and C5 Vette are about even with the GTO actually winning some races.
I have a LS1 GTO A4 with only full exhaust, cai, dyno tune and she puts down 339 rwhp/355 rwtq. I'm definitely at the LS2 level now. Oh and I know I can take a stock F-bod
12-23-2008, 03:24 PM
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haha welll i know how to fix those guys attitudes. im gonna make an account and but out some vids to them of ls1 GTO's getting owned. i might even have to do the worst and show some ricers beating some 
12-23-2008, 06:14 PM
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I am not a big fan of the gto's just because they booted out the firebirds. Could you imagine what a LS2 WS6 would do
Sorry dont mean to hijack I know we have a bench racing forum for that.
But back on topic I have seen the LS2 GTO's run mid 13 stock at san antonio raceway but the LS1's not so much. The best time i have seen out of one of those is a 14.00 at 106 with LTheaders, CAI, catback, Tune, its also a 6 speed, and with the 125 shot it ran a 12.80 at 112 which was all done on street tires.
Sorry dont mean to hijack I know we have a bench racing forum for that.But back on topic I have seen the LS2 GTO's run mid 13 stock at san antonio raceway but the LS1's not so much. The best time i have seen out of one of those is a 14.00 at 106 with LTheaders, CAI, catback, Tune, its also a 6 speed, and with the 125 shot it ran a 12.80 at 112 which was all done on street tires.
12-23-2008, 07:26 PM
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Like I said, I've personally witnessed 13.4-13.7s at 104 in an automatic 2004 Goat with nothing other than the catback hacked off. Maybe it's a freak as far as GTOs are concerned. He was cutting 2.0 60ft times and the weather was awesome. This was his second trip to the track. The first go around he couldn't muster any better than a 14.0, but that was with 2.2-2.3 60s.
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12-23-2008, 08:20 PM
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I think stock for stock vs a comparative TA or SS camaro the race would be a drivers race.
Yeah they're heavier, but the 04 GTO has a slightly more agressive cam and the dual exhaust from the factory. I'm saying STOCK FOR STOCK its a drivers race. C5's and C6's it should roll out like everyone would think.
When my car was stock it ran a 13.6 @ 104 with a horrible 2.21 60 ft...not too far off from what I've seen a lot of LS1 fbodies run.
Ls1 cars respond to mods well...bolt-ons for either will change the performance, and we all know a tune even on a stock car will make a world of difference. After mods there is no telling what will happen lol.
Yeah they're heavier, but the 04 GTO has a slightly more agressive cam and the dual exhaust from the factory. I'm saying STOCK FOR STOCK its a drivers race. C5's and C6's it should roll out like everyone would think.
When my car was stock it ran a 13.6 @ 104 with a horrible 2.21 60 ft...not too far off from what I've seen a lot of LS1 fbodies run.
Ls1 cars respond to mods well...bolt-ons for either will change the performance, and we all know a tune even on a stock car will make a world of difference. After mods there is no telling what will happen lol.
12-23-2008, 10:12 PM
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Like I said, I've personally witnessed 13.4-13.7s at 104 in an automatic 2004 Goat with nothing other than the catback hacked off. Maybe it's a freak as far as GTOs are concerned. He was cutting 2.0 60ft times and the weather was awesome. This was his second trip to the track. The first go around he couldn't muster any better than a 14.0, but that was with 2.2-2.3 60s.
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12-23-2008, 10:13 PM
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I think stock for stock vs a comparative TA or SS camaro the race would be a drivers race.
Yeah they're heavier, but the 04 GTO has a slightly more agressive cam and the dual exhaust from the factory. I'm saying STOCK FOR STOCK its a drivers race. C5's and C6's it should roll out like everyone would think.
When my car was stock it ran a 13.6 @ 104 with a horrible 2.21 60 ft...not too far off from what I've seen a lot of LS1 fbodies run.
Ls1 cars respond to mods well...bolt-ons for either will change the performance, and we all know a tune even on a stock car will make a world of difference. After mods there is no telling what will happen lol.
Yeah they're heavier, but the 04 GTO has a slightly more agressive cam and the dual exhaust from the factory. I'm saying STOCK FOR STOCK its a drivers race. C5's and C6's it should roll out like everyone would think.
When my car was stock it ran a 13.6 @ 104 with a horrible 2.21 60 ft...not too far off from what I've seen a lot of LS1 fbodies run.
Ls1 cars respond to mods well...bolt-ons for either will change the performance, and we all know a tune even on a stock car will make a world of difference. After mods there is no telling what will happen lol.
12-23-2008, 10:30 PM
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Dual pipes, one-sided exit. After the cats, it runs into an H-pipe and then through two mufflers and side-by-side exits.
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12-23-2008, 10:36 PM
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We swapped the bald tires from the back out with the full treaded runners from up front. He made more 2.3 passes than anything that week, and a THREE TENTH drop in the 60ft and better track/weather conditions could warrant a half second drop on the time slips. You've got good days and bad days. I've had times when my car won't get better than 13.2s, and others when 12.9s and 1.9s come without even trying.
I've no reason to make things up
It happened
12-24-2008, 12:10 AM
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It goes into an Hpipe that isn't very effective but its something to dual mufflers to single sided exit on the 04 gto.