06X6spdGTO

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well i will be trying to get my setup dyno tuned next month and just thought i would throw this out there to see any guess on what i might have at the wheels?

setup is on a 2001 z06:

LS6 block, honed for 3.905" overbore, decked .004", Kings cam bearings, done by TPIS
LS6 crank, polished and balanced
Diamond LW forged flattop pistons #11502, weight matched at 404 grams, floating pins
Probe LW forged I-beam 6.125" connecting rods, 600 grams, ARP bolts
Clevite coated 'H' main bearings, STD size
ACL hi-perf/race rod bearings, .001" undersize
Total Seal piston rings, 1.5mm/1.5mm/3mm, file to fit
C6/LS3 oil pan, 5.5 quarts, no batwings
TSP Comp XER camshaft, 233/239 on 113 LSA, .598/.603
Comp Cams 7.450" pushrods
LS2 timing chain
Ported LS6 oil pump, spring shimmed .060"
Ported FAST 90
LS2 Ported 90mm TB
LS6 MAF, ported
28 lb injectors (have a set of 30# SVO that will replace)
LS6 waterpump, 160 thermostat
LS6 243 heads, ported and polished, minimal decked, stock valves.
PRC .650" dual valvesprings, machined locks, Titanium retainers
ARP head bolts
GM MLS headgaskets
All new GM gaskets and seals
SLP underdrive pulley/damper, all steel, keyed to crank
Callaway Honker CAI
Kooks 1-7/8" Lts, 3" X-pipe catless
B&B Bullet Dual Tip
MSD plug wires, NGK plugs
B&M Ripper shifter
Centerforce DF 12" clutch kit
GM roller pilot bearing
New Slave
Tick Performance clutch bleeder line.
LS6 flywheel, resurfaced/machined, balanced
ARP pressure plate bolts
Head numbers 228cc intake/86cc exhaust runner volume. 317cfm intake/210cfm exhaust @ .600
64cc combustion chambers
About 10.8:1 Compression

Im thinking this combo should be around 470rwhp and 420rwtq.

tim99ws6

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I made 460rwhp through a 9" and 3" steel DS on a M6 setup.


My car was 60cc LS6 heads and a Trex cam on a forged 347. You're going to have a tough time getting to 470rwhp at that compression and with that cam i think. I'd say more like 450.

06X6spdGTO

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well with unported heads, stock compression, stock clutch, stock LS6 intake, 1 3/4 LTs, same cam, CAI the car made 433rwhp and 400 rwtq.

06X6spdGTO

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anyother good guess on what it should have at the wheels?

allngn_c5

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I don't think the 228cc intake runner is the best considering you are only running 10.8 to 1 compression. A runner that large on a 347 is going to need more compression to maintain port velocity of air/fuel mixture. She's going to scream up top, but may be a little less then exciting down low. Mill those heads until you get 11.5 to 1 and you'll be amazed at the extra torque. I like your 470/420 guess, but with more compression I'd guess at least 490/445 like my setup did if not more.........But what do I know, I'm no expert. Best of luck and hope you hit your goals.

06X6spdGTO

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your setup looks amazing!!!! might have to have some more milling done to the heads to maybe get around 11.0 mark but dont know if i want to go as high as 11.5:1. thanks for the support toward the 470/420 guess.

heres a vid i got of the car over the holidays. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNEW0gOudbU

allngn_c5

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If the amazing comment was for me, then thanks a lot. That was my old 346. I am hoping my 402 is dyno'd today. Been waiting for awhile. Should make 510/500 to the tire. The torque is going to be awesome.

Do you have access to a good tuner and 93 octane fuel ?? If you do then 11.5 to 1 SCR shouldn't be a problem at all. My new 402 should be 11.4 to 1. Anyways just run a colder plug and pre det won't be an issue at all. That was with 28* 's of timing too. No issues.

06X6spdGTO

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The highest octane i can get here in Nebraska is 91 octane. OR go with bigger Injectors (around 54lb/hr), boost a pump, Walbro 255lph and E85 (106.5 octane rating). but the tuner i got to doesnt know alot about tuning for E85 as he has never tuned for one.

allngn_c5

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A couple options bro. You could buy a bulk amount of Torco fuel Additive and add 1/2 bottle to every tank to boost you octane. Or you could just pull some timing. Now with that being said I think that a few of the "big names" on here have mentioned that it is more advantageous to run maximum timing and sacrifice a bit of your compression rather then run too high a compression and have to pull a bunch of timing due to KR issues.

Best of luck, and I don't know much either about the E85, other then you get less miles per gallon and that there aren't nearly as many stations that sell e85 as sell 91+ octane Gas. Considering you are in Nebraska, corn availability for e85 probably isn't much of a problem. What's a gallon of e85 run ya vs a gallon of 91 octane ??

06X6spdGTO

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1.40 for E85 /1.46 for 91 octane

allngn_c5

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6 cents less per gallon, and 20% less miles per gallon. I am not sure the savings adds up or not unless you weigh in the purpose of higher octane. The higher octane would let you run higher compression and more timing (more power) so if you can find a tuner and since the e85 is plentiful for you then I would do it, unless you can't find a tuner.

06X6spdGTO

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i think ill stick with the 91 octane for now, but how much of an increase/gain do you think there would be from setting the rev limiter 7k as opposed to 6800?

allngn_c5

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Not much, but when you bump compression from 10.8 : 1 to 11.8 : 1 and add in those few degrees of timing that you wouldn't have been able to run without the extra octane and you make a bunch more power. Not sure exactly, but maybe one of the sponsors who knows more then me could explain further. I wouldn't doubt 30+ rwhp gain from the extra compression, timing, and octane.

06X6spdGTO

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WELL i finally got my vette Dynoed with NO FAST 90/90 since the DumbA$$ i bought my FAST 90 from (guy from this forum) went CRAZY with Silicone on the intake, and didnt even bother to install the Gaskets on the Inside of the FAST!!!! so pretty much it was an AIR LEAKING Pile and now i have to buy a full FAST Gasket SET!!!

Anyway with the LS6 Intake/TB both ported and a Granitelli MAF i made
446RWHP/406RWTQ SAE with AFR around 13.3 and Rev limiter set to 7k.

So any guess on what it will make with the FAST 90/90???

allngn_c5

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446/406 aint too bad with an ls6 intake bro !!! I'd add a bit of fuel though. 13.3 to 1 is just a tad lean, and it will be magnified at 6500 rpms, wouldn't want to go boom at 6500. I bet a little more fuel added to the tune and a ported Fast 90 or 92 (You can get a great one from Ron @ Vengeance ) and you'll see another 20 rwhp most likely. (Ported FAST)

Sorry to hear another member on hear sold you a leaking pile of crap. I sold my ported 90 mm FAST with ported 90mm NW tb for 1000 shipped. The owner is very happy too. Give Ron a call and tell him I sent ya. Should be able to hook you up with free shipping or a better price then what's listed on the site. Good luck !!!!!!!!!!!!

06X6spdGTO

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Really all i need is the Gaskets for the FAST 90 i have. But i also need a set of hotter o2 sensors. also the 13.3 reading is the wide band reading at 7000K rpm

allngn C5 i watch a video of you racing a C6z06 on youtube a while back and couldnt understand how a 485+whp c5 lose to a C6Z claiming 460 rwhp??? is this guy blowing smoke??? just thought i would ask your opinon on the story heres the link (1:16 in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL-RI...ext=1&index=51

allngn_c5

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Don't know bro, those c6z's are fast. Fadi's was the fastest/quickest STOCK c6z I ever ran. Never could beat him, unless he missed a shift or I jumped the 3rd honk a bit early. I have beaten other c6z's, but I think I beat the driver. Fadi is a great driver. Really rows the gears.

allngn_c5

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Now with that being said, I don't think I'll have much trouble with the next stock c6z I run into.

06X6spdGTO

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I doubt it with those numbers!!! i just dont get how a slightly lighter car with more HP and equal TQ can lose to a car with LESS HP and More weight!!! Anyway allngn C5 what are the best o2 sensors i can run (I dont have my rears they a plug with bolts and shut off, and my tuner said the ones i have arent running hot enough to get a really good tune and reading.)

allngn_c5

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First off the c6z is lighter. Fadi has me by 100 lbs, I outweighed him by another 80, and he shifts at 7000 rpms and I was shifting between 6600-6700 or the best I could. Trust, me Fadi's dyno numbers were low, IMHO. He also dyno'd on a Mustang, not DJ. Like I said a few advantages, and Fadi shifted better, he won, that's it.

As far as o2's go, you should talk to the SPONSORS, and see who has the best price. I really don't know.