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Old 07-15-2009, 01:07 AM
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Him- 99 cobra
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h pipe
flowmaster super 40's
gatorback belt
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3.73 posi rear end(1500 miles on it, all new bearings, carrier, cv axles, etc.)
cold air intake

Me- 99 ss
whisper lid
H pipe Hooker LT's Who do you guys think would win?
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Are you m6 or a4?
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im a m6
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You'll spank him. My buddies intake exhaust cobra runs a best of 13.9 at 99mph. . . you should be mid to high 12's @ 108-110.
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Originally Posted by 01ws666
You'll spank him. My buddies intake exhaust cobra runs a best of 13.9 at 99mph. . . you should be mid to high 12's @ 108-110.
Um...then A) your buddy doesn't have a new edge cobra, B) has different mods, C) can't drive for ****. I'm going with "D" - all of the above.


OP - I'd give the nod to you in the majority of races. Unless you are a very crappy driver and he isn't.
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I walked a 99 cobra pretty hard 60-110 with lid and LT+catback when I had my WS6, but I think he was a shitty driver since it still had dealer tags on it. Run him and see.
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It could be very close. You should win from a roll (he should still be close), but if he's a good driver those 3.73s should help him from a dig. He definitely should have gotten 4.30s though...
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Um...then A) your buddy doesn't have a new edge cobra, B) has different mods, C) can't drive for ****. I'm going with "D" - all of the above.


OP - I'd give the nod to you in the majority of races. Unless you are a very crappy driver and he isn't.
I didnt realize a 99 cobra was a "new edge cobra" Oh wait its not... I guess I'll go with A) then
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I raced a 99 cobra. Both of us bone stock. Went neck and neck. Ima a4 he has a stick. Does not really answer your question. Just thought ill put it out there.
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You SHOULD beat him. One thing im curious on though, you say you have a H pipe? Not a Y pipe or a X pipe.. but a H pipe?? Anyways.. if you do have headers, you have the upper hand. Race him till a top end speed like 130 or 140, you WILL beat him then, they can't pull as hard as a ls1 up top there. From a dig to like 90 it might be close, but to 130 or something you'll have him by about 2-4cars easy. I've raced a few cobras before my cam in those years, and my friend has a white 99 also.
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Originally Posted by 01ws666
You'll spank him. My buddies intake exhaust cobra runs a best of 13.9 at 99mph. . . you should be mid to high 12's @ 108-110.
i didnt know M6s picked up a second from a lid and exhaust.........

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You SHOULD beat him. One thing im curious on though, you say you have a H pipe? Not a Y pipe or a X pipe.. but a H pipe?? Anyways.. if you do have headers, you have the upper hand. Race him till a top end speed like 130 or 140, you WILL beat him then, they can't pull as hard as a ls1 up top there. From a dig to like 90 it might be close, but to 130 or something you'll have him by about 2-4cars easy. I've raced a few cobras before my cam in those years, and my friend has a white 99 also.
whats so odd about an H-pipe?
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Originally Posted by 8675309
Him- 99 cobra
short shift
h pipe
flowmaster super 40's
gatorback belt
lowering suspension
programmer
3.73 posi rear end(1500 miles on it, all new bearings, carrier, cv axles, etc.)
cold air intake

Me- 99 ss
whisper lid
H pipe Hooker LT's Who do you guys think would win?
Being I have owned a 99 Cobra with full bolt ons and a 97 Cobra and a LS1 here is my take.

The mods he has isn't really conducive to waking the car up. You should spank him pretty good unless you can't drive. The 4V's need a 4.10 gear at minimum but work best with 4.30's and 4.56's. I would get spanked in both Cobras until I put in the 4.30's and full bolt ons. Once that occurred, the playing field was a bit more level until they had bolt ons You should be good to go.

Originally Posted by ponygt65
Um...then A) your buddy doesn't have a new edge cobra, B) has different mods, C) can't drive for ****. I'm going with "D" - all of the above.


OP - I'd give the nod to you in the majority of races. Unless you are a very crappy driver and he isn't.
Agreed. I ran mid 13's stock in my 99 and 13.8 in my 97 with a shifter and mufflers. The 99's can be tough to get a decent time due to the launch and the crappy IRS.

Originally Posted by 01ws666
I didnt realize a 99 cobra was a "new edge cobra" Oh wait its not... I guess I'll go with A) then
A 99 Cobra is a "new Edge" Cobra.
93 Cobra-Fox Body
94-98 Cobra- SN95
99-04 Cobra- New Edge
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Originally Posted by blackfang
A 99 Cobra is a "new Edge" Cobra.
93 Cobra-Fox Body
94-98 Cobra- SN95
99-04 Cobra- New Edge
What he said
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Originally Posted by 01ws666
I didnt realize a 99 cobra was a "new edge cobra" Oh wait its not... I guess I'll go with A) then
Are you saying a 99 isn't a New edge? Not being retorical, I'm serious.

Cause if so, you would be incorrect. blackfang broke it down for you.
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The mods he has isn't really conducive to waking the car up. You should spank him pretty good unless you can't drive. The 4V's need a 4.10 gear at minimum but work best with 4.30's and 4.56's. I would get spanked in both Cobras until I put in the 4.30's and full bolt ons. Once that occurred, the playing field was a bit more level until they had bolt ons You should be good to go.

Agreed. I ran mid 13's stock in my 99 and 13.8 in my 97 with a shifter and mufflers. The 99's can be tough to get a decent time due to the launch and the crappy IRS.
I think a CAI, full exhaust, tune new edge would 'hang' with a Lid only fbod. It would have to be a really good tune though. But generally, I def. agree...N/A 4V's love the gear.


I actually like the Sn95s more than the New edges. It's the hood of the new edges that deters me. I like them, but that 'sixxer' looking hood turns me off. I'd take a 96-98.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I think a CAI, full exhaust, tune new edge would 'hang' with a Lid only fbod. It would have to be a really good tune though. But generally, I def. agree...N/A 4V's love the gear.
I dunno, that could be close if counting longtubes.


I actually like the Sn95s more than the New edges. It's the hood of the new edges that deters me. I like them, but that 'sixxer' looking hood turns me off. I'd take a 96-98.
As do I.
Here is my last Cobra I sold in October for another bike, plus I couldn't justify modding the car along with my Z28.

Full bolt ons w/ 4.30's and it hung with a few light modded LS1's
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Originally Posted by blackfang
I dunno, that could be close if counting longtubes.



As do I.
Here is my last Cobra I sold in October for another bike, plus I couldn't justify modding the car along with my Z28.

Full bolt ons w/ 4.30's and it hung with a few light modded LS1's
Yep LT's are 'full exhaust' in my book.

VERY nice cobra. I dont' like the black bullits on too many stangs (I see them every where), but I like that setup. I also like the Cobra R rims on the SN95s. THere's a yellow one for sale about 3 hours north of me. Guy wants $4500. Wish I could get it.
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Thanks. I hate the Cobra R's because 95% of the cobra's have them and they are over played. I noticed not many Black Cobras had the Bullitts when I got them and wanted to be different.
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Originally Posted by blackfang
Thanks. I hate the Cobra R's because 95% of the cobra's have them and they are over played. I noticed not many Black Cobras had the Bullitts when I got them and wanted to be different.
Yeah, I dont' normally go for over played rims either, but that's one of the few I do.

Nice car for sure man.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Yeah, I dont' normally go for over played rims either, but that's one of the few I do.

Nice car for sure man.
TY.
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I've been surprised by too many Mustangs to complete brush them off. A friend of mine had a backfiring and ticking '96 Cobra that ran 13.6s with an H-pipe, flows, ghetto CAI and 3.73s. I think running tip top it would've snagged low 13s. On the highway, I'd walk him like he was on the brakes. We never ran them from a dig.

Almost got to duel with a kid in a thugged out '01 Cobra, but we lined up right next to a cop and politely parted ways. I've always been a big SVT fan and wouldn't underestimate that one.


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