Stick shift or auto?
09-15-2009, 04:10 AM
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I truly wish automatics didn't exist - or at least that people had to learn to drive a stick before getting their drivers license.
And with a stick - it would reduce the # of people on their cell phone and eating lunch and reading and the other variety of non-driving activities people seem to think are OK to do while driving. Yes you can do all these with a manual vehicle, but if you aren't a good driver, it isn't going to go well.
And with a stick - it would reduce the # of people on their cell phone and eating lunch and reading and the other variety of non-driving activities people seem to think are OK to do while driving. Yes you can do all these with a manual vehicle, but if you aren't a good driver, it isn't going to go well.
09-15-2009, 08:19 AM
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Do you really believe that? I sure don't. I'd say it's more likely that the idiots who choose to perform some of the more ridiculous activities while driving, would continue to perform said activities while driving a manual as well. The difference is they will be even more dangerous, because they'll also be distracted by having to shift, in addition to their "non-driving" activities. In any case, it's a moot point, because truly good drivers do not talk on the phone, read, put on their makeup, or do their nails while driving.
09-15-2009, 08:22 AM
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Do you really believe that? I sure don't. I'd say it's more likely that the idiots who choose to perform some of the more ridiculous activities while driving, would continue to perform said activities while driving a manual as well. The difference is they will be even more dangerous, because they'll also be distracted by having to shift, in addition to their "non-driving" activities. In any case, it's a moot point, because truly good drivers do not talk on the phone, read, put on their makeup, or do their nails while driving.
09-15-2009, 10:09 AM
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Do you really believe that? I sure don't. I'd say it's more likely that the idiots who choose to perform some of the more ridiculous activities while driving, would continue to perform said activities while driving a manual as well. The difference is they will be even more dangerous, because they'll also be distracted by having to shift, in addition to their "non-driving" activities. In any case, it's a moot point, because truly good drivers do not talk on the phone, read, put on their makeup, or do their nails while driving.
And I also can prove it. Go to Australia and drive there. Look up Australian road fatality stats and see how far they have dropped over the years. Proper licensing and driving practices plus enforced 'hands-free' and other related laws.
It is an absolute pleasure to drive in Australia. Not saying there are no idiots, because there are idiots everywhere, but the #'s on the road are heavily reduced.
Of course I have to drive in Florida every day...
09-15-2009, 11:05 AM
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Do you really believe that? I sure don't. I'd say it's more likely that the idiots who choose to perform some of the more ridiculous activities while driving, would continue to perform said activities while driving a manual as well. The difference is they will be even more dangerous, because they'll also be distracted by having to shift, in addition to their "non-driving" activities. In any case, it's a moot point, because truly good drivers do not talk on the phone, read, put on their makeup, or do their nails while driving.
Actually I do believe it.
And I also can prove it. Go to Australia and drive there. Look up Australian road fatality stats and see how far they have dropped over the years. Proper licensing and driving practices plus enforced 'hands-free' and other related laws.
It is an absolute pleasure to drive in Australia. Not saying there are no idiots, because there are idiots everywhere, but the #'s on the road are heavily reduced.
Of course I have to drive in Florida every day...
And I also can prove it. Go to Australia and drive there. Look up Australian road fatality stats and see how far they have dropped over the years. Proper licensing and driving practices plus enforced 'hands-free' and other related laws.
It is an absolute pleasure to drive in Australia. Not saying there are no idiots, because there are idiots everywhere, but the #'s on the road are heavily reduced.
Of course I have to drive in Florida every day...
However, this discussion is about performance cars. If I had an all out track car (single digit guaranteed) that was trailored (primarily) then I'd say a built auto. outside of that...I'll keep my Manual tranny.
09-15-2009, 01:45 PM
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This topic is getting a little stretched haha. Bottom line is if all you care about is running the fastest most consistent time at a drag strip, being boring and just sitting there, get a auto. If you care about fun and all around driving, drifting, road racing, drag strip, then get a manual. It's just a fricken preference.
09-15-2009, 01:57 PM
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This topic is getting a little stretched haha. Bottom line is if all you care about is running the fastest most consistent time at a drag strip, being boring and just sitting there, get a auto. If you care about fun and all around driving, drifting, road racing, drag strip, then get a manual. It's just a fricken preference.
If you want to sit back and not worry about shifting, rear ends, clutches, and get more consistant times get a auto. If you want to shift all the time, street race, and worry about clutches and rear ends get a manual.
09-15-2009, 04:22 PM
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This topic is getting a little stretched haha. Bottom line is if all you care about is running the fastest most consistent time at a drag strip, being boring and just sitting there, get a auto. If you care about fun and all around driving, drifting, road racing, drag strip, then get a manual. It's just a fricken preference.
Manual guys seem to need to establish some type of superiority... I have never understood why. Must have been on the receiving end of one too many auto holeshots
09-15-2009, 04:35 PM
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This is the first manual I've owned, and it makes even the better autos I've driven a total bore fest in comparison. You might as well have the computer drive the whole car for you. Yay, jumping off the line for the first 100 feet or so are fun, but then every other aspect of it is totally lame and uninvolved.
And if you are worried about consistency grow a pair and learn how to drive.
And if you are worried about consistency grow a pair and learn how to drive.
09-15-2009, 05:01 PM
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Surprisingly I haven't had many issues with that 
... But I have seen it be the deciding factor in WAY to many races.
Seriously though guys it's all about what YOU want. Thats why this has been asked so many times and why no one ever agrees.
BTW M6's can be surprisingly consistant with practice
... But I have seen it be the deciding factor in WAY to many races.Seriously though guys it's all about what YOU want. Thats why this has been asked so many times and why no one ever agrees.
BTW M6's can be surprisingly consistant with practice
09-15-2009, 05:09 PM
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This is the first manual I've owned, and it makes even the better autos I've driven a total bore fest in comparison. You might as well have the computer drive the whole car for you. Yay, jumping off the line for the first 100 feet or so are fun, but then every other aspect of it is totally lame and uninvolved.
And if you are worried about consistency grow a pair and learn how to drive.
And if you are worried about consistency grow a pair and learn how to drive.
09-15-2009, 05:18 PM
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Surprisingly I haven't had many issues with that ... But I have seen it be the deciding factor in WAY to many races.
Seriously though guys it's all about what YOU want. Thats why this has been asked so many times and why no one ever agrees.
BTW M6's can be surprisingly consistant with practice
... But I have seen it be the deciding factor in WAY to many races.Seriously though guys it's all about what YOU want. Thats why this has been asked so many times and why no one ever agrees.
BTW M6's can be surprisingly consistant with practice
09-16-2009, 06:04 PM
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09-16-2009, 07:00 PM
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Not quite, I prefer real racing (road racing/auto-x) to that boring strait line stuff.
09-16-2009, 08:46 PM
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That's just ignorant. That's like someone saying boring circle stuff. Going 0-130+ is hardly boring......oh, in 1320' IE: 10 seconds. Just like sling shoting out of a turn to increase your lead or pass someone is hardly boring.
09-16-2009, 08:50 PM
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x a bazillion lol
with some skill you can launch a manual just as hard as a auto, just invest in a serious clutch and of course the rear, slip the clutch and your gone.
although i do agree there is alot more room for error.
but once you have some time under your belt i feel it can be consistent.
oh and that vid was bad ***, that guy threw his body into every shift.
with some skill you can launch a manual just as hard as a auto, just invest in a serious clutch and of course the rear, slip the clutch and your gone.
although i do agree there is alot more room for error.
but once you have some time under your belt i feel it can be consistent.
oh and that vid was bad ***, that guy threw his body into every shift.