Z28 Vs 370z
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http://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840-...ons-stock.html
100% stock down to the tire
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.157@105.32mph 1.938 60ft
100% stock down to the tire
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.157@105.32mph 1.938 60ft
Let me guess, the person making the claim
Ricers will lie about mods and times to make themselves look good, thats a known fact. And there is no reason to believe those cars were stock, I'm sure they at least had DR's.
#63
I was surprised it didn't beat the Camaro around LS. I have two theories about that:
1. The gearing of the Camaro was more conducive the long 60-100mph straights at LS.
2. The 370 tended to drift a lot. I wonder if it was an alignment away from 1-2 second better time?
This caught my attention.
The 112mph C5 was undoubtably an FRC?
I would like to see proof of a 110mph stock LS1. To my knowledge, it's 109mph.
If the 370Z can trap 109mph and the automatic did 108mph in C&D, all it takes is a low 1.9x 60ft for a 12sec run...
1. The gearing of the Camaro was more conducive the long 60-100mph straights at LS.
2. The 370 tended to drift a lot. I wonder if it was an alignment away from 1-2 second better time?
This caught my attention.
The 112mph C5 was undoubtably an FRC?
I would like to see proof of a 110mph stock LS1. To my knowledge, it's 109mph.
If the 370Z can trap 109mph and the automatic did 108mph in C&D, all it takes is a low 1.9x 60ft for a 12sec run...
years ago i developed a bone stock C5 list....I will locate it and post it up..C5's are undoubtably faster than the camaros...Birds...Especially in high speed rolls and 1/4 mile trapp speeds and 2 tenths or so faster 1/4 mile wise..
Ill find it...
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Ranger Armstrong and Jamie Furman are lying too, huh? Just because somebody drives a certain type of car doesn't make them more prone to lying or telling the truth.
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You could actually see the videos of the cars running themselves. the reason the driver gave that the 370z did not go as fast was that it simply was lacking power, those are the words out of his mouth. In actuality the 370z had the 4th highest G average, 1st being ZR1, 2nd R8, and 3rd Caymen S, meaning that the 370z basically had the 4th best grip. if you watch the vids on youtube( just type Camaro SS laps Laguna Seca youll find it) the camaro drifted more, but regardless was faster.
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nice kill...i gotta admit tho IMO you didnt really run away from him like i thought you would before i watched....i got a chance to read some post before watchin the vid and some people in here made it seem like you had lengths on the kid...judgin from the time he let out of it, it looked like you had a 1 3/4 on him maybe 2 at best. That is a solid kill, but Some of you guys should get out more
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OK...Heres the C5 bone stock list I made years ago showing what LS1's can really do dead stock...It's one thing to say that you think the 370 will do it....The LS1's have been their and done that over and over again....
100 % BONE STOCK LIST DOWN TO THE TIRES AND PAPER AIR FILTER
A4 2.73'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
SLOWVETTE...A4...2.73...13.1...106
TURBOBOB87...A4...2.73...13.1...105
EVILC5...A4...2.73...13.2...106
DEFORMULA...A4...2.73...13.2...106
S383S...A4...2.73...13.2...105
LS6RAT...A4...2.73...13.3...105
ELECTRONC5...A4...2.73...13.4...105
LARON...A4...2.73...13.5...104
NAT04Z06'SDAD...A4...2.73...13.5...104
KUNGFURUCK...A4...2.73...13.5...104
PONCHORELLO...A4...2.73...13.5...103
OKLAHOMA...A4...2.73...13.5...103
CLIPENSKI...A4...2.73...13.7...105
BLACKVETTESRBEST...A4...2.73...13.7...10 2
RAYSVETTE...A4...2.73...13.9...???
XCLR8N...A4...2.73...14.0...103
A4 3.15'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
JIMK98...A4...3.15...12.9...107
RYANBUSH#1...A4...3.15...13.0...105
ROBO01C5...A4...3.15...13.1...107
STANGER383...A4...3.15...13.1...106
RYANBUSH#2...A4...3.15...13.3...108
MIKEV...A4...3.15...13.3...107
MACOMAAN...A4...3.15...13.3...105
JAYGOOD...A4...315...13.3...105
DAVID426...A4...3.15...13.3...105
WT99C5...A4...3.15...13.3...104
BEAST...A4...3.15...13.3...103
IMPORTEATER...A4...3.15...13.4...105
CHAASE...A4...3.15...13.4...103
LSK...A4...3.15...13.6...104
GLOCK...A4...3.15...13.6...103
C5THRILER...A4...3.15...13.7...105
SHURITTE44...A4...3.15...13.7...103
ARBUCK...A4...3.15...13.7...101
MN6 3.42'S COUPE, CONVERTABLE AND F.R.C. (NO Z06'S)
TORCHDU...MN6...12.8...110
02BLACKZ...MN6...12.9...111
CAJUNDUDE...MN6...12.9...110
MGORMAN...MN6...13.0...111
AQUAMAN...MN6...13.0...109
JOHNSHIELS...MN6...13.0...108
GSXRJACK...MN6...13.0...107
GBJORK50...MN6...13.1...110
LS1VETTE97...MN6...13.2...108
MARKVIII...MN6...13.2...107
1BADPURPLELTI...MN6...13.3...107
LASTMANGO...MN6...13.3...106
502CI...MN6...13.3...106
CARSRFUN DAD...MN6...13.3...105
CSCOKD...MN6...13.4...107
FRCBOBBY...MN6...13.4...105
NAV108...MN6...13.5...109
LVVETTE...MN6...14.1...101
KENDO347...MN6...14.1...100
Im proud to say that im LARON up their with the 2.73 geared auto that ran the 13.5 at 104 mph...easily whooping the 14.0 put out by the fastest 350Z at my drag strip stock vrs stock here in Hawaii
100 % BONE STOCK LIST DOWN TO THE TIRES AND PAPER AIR FILTER
A4 2.73'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
SLOWVETTE...A4...2.73...13.1...106
TURBOBOB87...A4...2.73...13.1...105
EVILC5...A4...2.73...13.2...106
DEFORMULA...A4...2.73...13.2...106
S383S...A4...2.73...13.2...105
LS6RAT...A4...2.73...13.3...105
ELECTRONC5...A4...2.73...13.4...105
LARON...A4...2.73...13.5...104
NAT04Z06'SDAD...A4...2.73...13.5...104
KUNGFURUCK...A4...2.73...13.5...104
PONCHORELLO...A4...2.73...13.5...103
OKLAHOMA...A4...2.73...13.5...103
CLIPENSKI...A4...2.73...13.7...105
BLACKVETTESRBEST...A4...2.73...13.7...10 2
RAYSVETTE...A4...2.73...13.9...???
XCLR8N...A4...2.73...14.0...103
A4 3.15'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
JIMK98...A4...3.15...12.9...107
RYANBUSH#1...A4...3.15...13.0...105
ROBO01C5...A4...3.15...13.1...107
STANGER383...A4...3.15...13.1...106
RYANBUSH#2...A4...3.15...13.3...108
MIKEV...A4...3.15...13.3...107
MACOMAAN...A4...3.15...13.3...105
JAYGOOD...A4...315...13.3...105
DAVID426...A4...3.15...13.3...105
WT99C5...A4...3.15...13.3...104
BEAST...A4...3.15...13.3...103
IMPORTEATER...A4...3.15...13.4...105
CHAASE...A4...3.15...13.4...103
LSK...A4...3.15...13.6...104
GLOCK...A4...3.15...13.6...103
C5THRILER...A4...3.15...13.7...105
SHURITTE44...A4...3.15...13.7...103
ARBUCK...A4...3.15...13.7...101
MN6 3.42'S COUPE, CONVERTABLE AND F.R.C. (NO Z06'S)
TORCHDU...MN6...12.8...110
02BLACKZ...MN6...12.9...111
CAJUNDUDE...MN6...12.9...110
MGORMAN...MN6...13.0...111
AQUAMAN...MN6...13.0...109
JOHNSHIELS...MN6...13.0...108
GSXRJACK...MN6...13.0...107
GBJORK50...MN6...13.1...110
LS1VETTE97...MN6...13.2...108
MARKVIII...MN6...13.2...107
1BADPURPLELTI...MN6...13.3...107
LASTMANGO...MN6...13.3...106
502CI...MN6...13.3...106
CARSRFUN DAD...MN6...13.3...105
CSCOKD...MN6...13.4...107
FRCBOBBY...MN6...13.4...105
NAV108...MN6...13.5...109
LVVETTE...MN6...14.1...101
KENDO347...MN6...14.1...100
Im proud to say that im LARON up their with the 2.73 geared auto that ran the 13.5 at 104 mph...easily whooping the 14.0 put out by the fastest 350Z at my drag strip stock vrs stock here in Hawaii
#70
Ranger Armstrong and Jamie Furman are lying too, huh? Just because somebody drives a certain type of car doesn't make them more prone to lying or telling the truth.
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Honestly I question their times...Especially Jamie. I like him as he seems to be a nice guy..But setting a record every time you touch a car on your first outing with it is a bit hard to swallow....
Then again most millionaires dont drag race....He has the time/resources/vehicles to do it. As well I hear he personally rents out the tracks...So He could be 100% legit...
They say it's like this....
11.6 in a stock ACR Viper gen 2
10.9 in a st0ck Z06
\11.0 in a stock ACR Viper gen 4
10.9 in a stock convertable Viper gen 4
No matter who you are it is hard to beleave that one man can posess so much God given skill..But never the less he has witnesses to all these times...
Sorry for the derail...
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Honestly I question their times...Especially Jamie. I like him as he seems to be a nice guy..But setting a record every time you touch a car on your first outing with it is a bit hard to swallow....
Then again most millionaires dont drag race....He has the time/resources/vehicles to do it. As well I hear he personally rents out the tracks...So He could be 100% legit...
They say it's like this....
11.6 in a stock ACR Viper gen 2
10.9 in a st0ck Z06
\11.0 in a stock ACR Viper gen 4
10.9 in a stock convertable Viper gen 4
No matter who you are it is hard to beleave that one man can posess so much God given skill..But never the less he has witnesses to all these times...
Sorry for the derail...
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Can you provide a link to that? That's the first I've heard of it. 600hp it's possible though..
If legit, I guess there can be one. I doubted the 110mph LS2 GTO times too but one is lighter than everyone elses and the other had a short-throw shifter.
#74
One thing that has to be considered is aerodynamics.... A 4th gen f-body is more aerodynamic than a SRT8, which is a brick. I ran a Cherokee SRT8 from a roll and stay ahead by a car. I heard and felt the guy maxing out the motor at top end, but my TA kept going...I know because I own a Magnum SRt8 and the sound is quite familiar to me. The little Trans Am with a few mods kept it at bay. I seriously though he would kick my *** but was wrong...why? IMO aerodynamics...the TA slices through more easily than the Jeep!! Just my 2 cents.
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My guess would be the lid and/or catback option was on his. So far without a clean run (spinning bad enough to require letting off) I've picked up close to 1 full MPH with my lid/fra setup over my stock 108.59mph traps in about equal conditions (the most recent being slightly worse than the previous).
#78
Actually it's not, it's verified by a moderator on the site via pm with timeslip. Those cars were stock. Why is it so hard to believe?
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cause you can can send a picture of any timeslip you want and have it "verified" that way. for a 350z to run 13.1 would take nothing short of the stars to align, and to drop an ls1 in it.
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The 370Z weighs about the same as an 03-04 350Z...its lighter then the 07-08 HR 350Zs....the weight difference is small...some will say it weighs less others will say their the same either way your arguing about a difference of around 50lbs. The average trap speeds of the 370Zs vs. the average trap speeds of the 07-08 HR 350Zs shows the 370Z is averaging around 2-3MPH higher in the 1/4...its clearly a faster car. It won't be long before someone squeeks a high 12 out of a bone stock 370Z...their about identical in straight line performance to a stock LS1.
03-05, all were the same in the interior. Weighing in at 3188.
06, 3339, revised engine producing 300 hp @ 7000 rpm, along with revised interior increasing the weight nearly 200 lbs. bixenon headlights, 18" wheels standard etc.
07, 3339, same as 06, standard bixenon headlights etc.
370Z 3374, now this is a huge misconception. The 370Z is the heaviest of all the Z's. Everyone expected it to weigh less that the 350Z because of claims etc. So then right before production Nissan had to add safety equipment adding weight.
Now some people are wondering if the quickest 03-05 went 13.5 @ xxx mph how is it possible the 07-08 went low 13's. Easy. Check this out.
http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-d...r-numbers.html
That is a dyno showing that the 03-05 averages 230 whp on a dyno, the 06 averages 240 whp on a dyno, hr averages 260 whp, and the VHR(370) 280 whp. So there is a difference of 40 whp between the 03-07 Z's. Now add in some low DA's and some great Atco like track prep and I put money on it you could easily do 13.0's 13.1's all day long on stock treads.
Some of you on this board need to open up your minds. Just because you have a LS1 powered car doesn't mean you have to be ignorant (unknowing) to other cars, that's how the wrong information is spread. Now some people truly believe the Z's are 14 second cars. I drove mine stock to a 13.9 on shitty tires with a shitty 2.1 60' my first night out ever in RWD. So with more practice some better tires I'm willing to bet I could crank out a 1.9 60' and do 13.5's and that's with an 06.
Also our cars are not geared anything like the C5's or the LS1 Z28's. They are extremely long gears meant for the strip. Whereas our cars are made more for track racing and autox. Hence why we're in and out of the 1-4 gears so quickly. I give respect to the LS1's because I know firsthand what they can do. But I know a 06+ Z with some gears, a good driver, and some boltons will be able to hang with one pretty well.
Also whoever posted that **** up about a gen 4 ACR Viper going 10.90. Show me that slip asap. Last I checked the record time for any of them was a 11.50at Atco.
Last edited by Z33Option; 11-06-2009 at 04:22 PM.