Z28 Vs 370z
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I believe the fastest trap speed for a stock 2007 350Z was around 107 mph with the average being 104-105 mph, making it a good run for a stock LS1 with the LS1 edging it. I figure the 370 should be a bit faster than the 2007 350 since it has the larger motor, but that's just a guess as I haven't seen any at the track yet, and haven't really researched them.
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You could actually see the videos of the cars running themselves. the reason the driver gave that the 370z did not go as fast was that it simply was lacking power, those are the words out of his mouth. In actuality the 370z had the 4th highest G average, 1st being ZR1, 2nd R8, and 3rd Caymen S, meaning that the 370z basically had the 4th best grip. if you watch the vids on youtube( just type Camaro SS laps Laguna Seca youll find it) the camaro drifted more, but regardless was faster.
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Nope. Exact specs. for weights for every different year the Z was made for clarification. All numbers were from the base model. Any other models were no more than 50lbs more in all model years since they pretty much added the same options.
03-05, all were the same in the interior. Weighing in at 3188.
06, 3339, revised engine producing 300 hp @ 7000 rpm, along with revised interior increasing the weight nearly 200 lbs. bixenon headlights, 18" wheels standard etc.
07, 3339, same as 06, standard bixenon headlights etc.
370Z 3374, now this is a huge misconception. The 370Z is the heaviest of all the Z's. Everyone expected it to weigh less that the 350Z because of claims etc. So then right before production Nissan had to add safety equipment adding weight.
Now some people are wondering if the quickest 03-05 went 13.5 @ xxx mph how is it possible the 07-08 went low 13's. Easy. Check this out.
http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-d...r-numbers.html
That is a dyno showing that the 03-05 averages 230 whp on a dyno, the 06 averages 240 whp on a dyno, hr averages 260 whp, and the VHR(370) 280 whp. So there is a difference of 40 whp between the 03-07 Z's. Now add in some low DA's and some great Atco like track prep and I put money on it you could easily do 13.0's 13.1's all day long on stock treads.
Some of you on this board need to open up your minds. Just because you have a LS1 powered car doesn't mean you have to be ignorant (unknowing) to other cars, that's how the wrong information is spread. Now some people truly believe the Z's are 14 second cars. I drove mine stock to a 13.9 on shitty tires with a shitty 2.1 60' my first night out ever in RWD. So with more practice some better tires I'm willing to bet I could crank out a 1.9 60' and do 13.5's and that's with an 06.
Also our cars are not geared anything like the C5's or the LS1 Z28's. They are extremely long gears meant for the strip. Whereas our cars are made more for track racing and autox. Hence why we're in and out of the 1-4 gears so quickly. I give respect to the LS1's because I know firsthand what they can do. But I know a 06+ Z with some gears, a good driver, and some boltons will be able to hang with one pretty well.
Also whoever posted that **** up about a gen 4 ACR Viper going 10.90. Show me that slip asap. Last I checked the record time for any of them was a 11.50at Atco.
03-05, all were the same in the interior. Weighing in at 3188.
06, 3339, revised engine producing 300 hp @ 7000 rpm, along with revised interior increasing the weight nearly 200 lbs. bixenon headlights, 18" wheels standard etc.
07, 3339, same as 06, standard bixenon headlights etc.
370Z 3374, now this is a huge misconception. The 370Z is the heaviest of all the Z's. Everyone expected it to weigh less that the 350Z because of claims etc. So then right before production Nissan had to add safety equipment adding weight.
Now some people are wondering if the quickest 03-05 went 13.5 @ xxx mph how is it possible the 07-08 went low 13's. Easy. Check this out.
http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-d...r-numbers.html
That is a dyno showing that the 03-05 averages 230 whp on a dyno, the 06 averages 240 whp on a dyno, hr averages 260 whp, and the VHR(370) 280 whp. So there is a difference of 40 whp between the 03-07 Z's. Now add in some low DA's and some great Atco like track prep and I put money on it you could easily do 13.0's 13.1's all day long on stock treads.
Some of you on this board need to open up your minds. Just because you have a LS1 powered car doesn't mean you have to be ignorant (unknowing) to other cars, that's how the wrong information is spread. Now some people truly believe the Z's are 14 second cars. I drove mine stock to a 13.9 on shitty tires with a shitty 2.1 60' my first night out ever in RWD. So with more practice some better tires I'm willing to bet I could crank out a 1.9 60' and do 13.5's and that's with an 06.
Also our cars are not geared anything like the C5's or the LS1 Z28's. They are extremely long gears meant for the strip. Whereas our cars are made more for track racing and autox. Hence why we're in and out of the 1-4 gears so quickly. I give respect to the LS1's because I know firsthand what they can do. But I know a 06+ Z with some gears, a good driver, and some boltons will be able to hang with one pretty well.
Also whoever posted that **** up about a gen 4 ACR Viper going 10.90. Show me that slip asap. Last I checked the record time for any of them was a 11.50at Atco.
Wow your jokeing about the gen4 Vipers right??????
The bad drivers have been running 11.6-11.9 at 126-127 mph in them...The decent drivers have been running 11.4-11.7 at 128-129 mph...The good drivers have been running 11.1-11.4 at 129-130 mph...
The fastest was a 10.92 at 129.83 set by Jamie furman..beating out the C6Z06 by nerarly a tenth...
The 11.5 your referring to was set by Viper Jim in a gen3 Viper..These are the 500 HP Vipers from 2003-2006...They average high 11's to low 12's...But two people have managed 11.5 in the gen3's and quite a few 11.6's have been acomplished...
Ill go get you the proof...
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OK...This is a list I have been working on for about two years...My latest entry was done this month....I also made list for the gen1 and gen 2 Vipers as well..
This list is for the 2003-2006 gen3 Vipers with 500 HP...I can see how you would think the record for the gen4 is only 11.5 as the gen3 and gen4 look very much alike...Ive owned two Vipers and honestly counting my own two Ive seen maybe 10 Vipers in my life...So again it is very easy to mistake a gen 4 as a gen 3..they look 98% the same..
So heres the list for the gen 3 Vipers with 500 HP...
GEN 3
SpeedFreak.2006Vert...11.5...122.6mph
ViperJim......2003Vert...11.5...121mph
JustinBell....2003Vert...11.7...123.6mph
Motor Trend: Speeding! Top-Speed Shootout
JohnMyrick....2003Vert...11.8...122.9mph
UtahViper.....2003Vert...11.8...119mph
Outfan2929....2003Vert....11.8...119mph
RickMay.......2004Vert...11.9...123mph
Eagle..........2004Vert...11.9....123mph
Dman..........2003vert...11.9...122.3mph
Hamrhead......2006Coupe..11.9...122mph
Ulllose.......2003Vert...11.9...121mph
Boosted349..2006Coupe.12.0 at 121 mph
TomDickson....2004Vert...12.0...118mph
MrJ...........2003Vert...12.2...120mph
RickMartino...2003Vert...12.1...118mph
IvanHo........2003Vert...12.2...119mph
Omore001...2006Coupe..12.4 at 121 mph
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This list is for the 2003-2006 gen3 Vipers with 500 HP...I can see how you would think the record for the gen4 is only 11.5 as the gen3 and gen4 look very much alike...Ive owned two Vipers and honestly counting my own two Ive seen maybe 10 Vipers in my life...So again it is very easy to mistake a gen 4 as a gen 3..they look 98% the same..
So heres the list for the gen 3 Vipers with 500 HP...
GEN 3
SpeedFreak.2006Vert...11.5...122.6mph
ViperJim......2003Vert...11.5...121mph
JustinBell....2003Vert...11.7...123.6mph
Motor Trend: Speeding! Top-Speed Shootout
JohnMyrick....2003Vert...11.8...122.9mph
UtahViper.....2003Vert...11.8...119mph
Outfan2929....2003Vert....11.8...119mph
RickMay.......2004Vert...11.9...123mph
Eagle..........2004Vert...11.9....123mph
Dman..........2003vert...11.9...122.3mph
Hamrhead......2006Coupe..11.9...122mph
Ulllose.......2003Vert...11.9...121mph
Boosted349..2006Coupe.12.0 at 121 mph
TomDickson....2004Vert...12.0...118mph
MrJ...........2003Vert...12.2...120mph
RickMartino...2003Vert...12.1...118mph
IvanHo........2003Vert...12.2...119mph
Omore001...2006Coupe..12.4 at 121 mph
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http://forums.viperclub.org/srt10-sr...k-srt-10s.html
The link above is for the 10.92 record in a gen4 Viper ( the 2008 and up model with 600 HP)
These 2008 Vipers are simply evil beaste....Again 128-130 mph trapps seems to be nonthing for them...As well video footage has shown that stock vs stock they will walk away from a c6Z06 and be a few cars ahead by 150 mph...They are just eveil
The link above is for the 10.92 record in a gen4 Viper ( the 2008 and up model with 600 HP)
These 2008 Vipers are simply evil beaste....Again 128-130 mph trapps seems to be nonthing for them...As well video footage has shown that stock vs stock they will walk away from a c6Z06 and be a few cars ahead by 150 mph...They are just eveil
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ive ran plenty of 350 zs and have stroked all of them, some were modified. and i have a bone stock 01 z28 m6.....been wantin to get ahold of a 370 tho
it might be a driver issue but from my experiences 350 zs are slooowww
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BTW..While we are still on the 370Z subject...260-280 rwhp and 3400 pounds dose not equate to an automatic 12 second car...The LS1's REALLY dyno 290-310 rwhp...My 2004 AUTOMATIC LS1 dynoed 299 rwhp SAE bone stock and only weighed 3270 pounds..And thats a 12 second car with the grace of God....Your talking about a 270 rwhp car at 3400 pounds..A 13.2 would be pretty good to say the leaste...
With an average of 270 rwhp and 3370 pounds vrs the average of 300 rwhp for the LS1 and 3450 pounds it's not hard to see why the LS1's in a 1998 camaro will still edge out the 370Z...
I know you love your car and I as well think the new 370Z is BEAUTIFUL and I almost bought a 350Z when they first came out...But your fighting a fire by throwing bits of bacon brother...Every vid you will see will show the LS1's kicking ***....
In my 99 Viper with 450 freaking HP I had a few LS1's give me fits with just bolt ons or cam ect....A 350Z could be supercharged and I would have just laughed and only a TT would have made me worry any....****..A TT LS1 and I wont even show up to race..Whats the point..Im getting murdered no matter what I show up in...
Again all bullshit aside....I havent owned a camaro or vette in atleaste 4 years....But the LS1's are dayum impressive no matter what you drive *****except for the fat *** ugly GTO's...They are slow pieces of ****************
With an average of 270 rwhp and 3370 pounds vrs the average of 300 rwhp for the LS1 and 3450 pounds it's not hard to see why the LS1's in a 1998 camaro will still edge out the 370Z...
I know you love your car and I as well think the new 370Z is BEAUTIFUL and I almost bought a 350Z when they first came out...But your fighting a fire by throwing bits of bacon brother...Every vid you will see will show the LS1's kicking ***....
In my 99 Viper with 450 freaking HP I had a few LS1's give me fits with just bolt ons or cam ect....A 350Z could be supercharged and I would have just laughed and only a TT would have made me worry any....****..A TT LS1 and I wont even show up to race..Whats the point..Im getting murdered no matter what I show up in...
Again all bullshit aside....I havent owned a camaro or vette in atleaste 4 years....But the LS1's are dayum impressive no matter what you drive *****except for the fat *** ugly GTO's...They are slow pieces of ****************
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Nope. Exact specs. for weights for every different year the Z was made for clarification. All numbers were from the base model. Any other models were no more than 50lbs more in all model years since they pretty much added the same options.
03-05, all were the same in the interior. Weighing in at 3188.
06, 3339, revised engine producing 300 hp @ 7000 rpm, along with revised interior increasing the weight nearly 200 lbs. bixenon headlights, 18" wheels standard etc.
07, 3339, same as 06, standard bixenon headlights etc.
370Z 3374, now this is a huge misconception. The 370Z is the heaviest of all the Z's. Everyone expected it to weigh less that the 350Z because of claims etc. So then right before production Nissan had to add safety equipment adding weight.
Now some people are wondering if the quickest 03-05 went 13.5 @ xxx mph how is it possible the 07-08 went low 13's. Easy. Check this out.
http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-d...r-numbers.html
That is a dyno showing that the 03-05 averages 230 whp on a dyno, the 06 averages 240 whp on a dyno, hr averages 260 whp, and the VHR(370) 280 whp. So there is a difference of 40 whp between the 03-07 Z's. Now add in some low DA's and some great Atco like track prep and I put money on it you could easily do 13.0's 13.1's all day long on stock treads.
Some of you on this board need to open up your minds. Just because you have a LS1 powered car doesn't mean you have to be ignorant (unknowing) to other cars, that's how the wrong information is spread. Now some people truly believe the Z's are 14 second cars. I drove mine stock to a 13.9 on shitty tires with a shitty 2.1 60' my first night out ever in RWD. So with more practice some better tires I'm willing to bet I could crank out a 1.9 60' and do 13.5's and that's with an 06.
Also our cars are not geared anything like the C5's or the LS1 Z28's. They are extremely long gears meant for the strip. Whereas our cars are made more for track racing and autox. Hence why we're in and out of the 1-4 gears so quickly. I give respect to the LS1's because I know firsthand what they can do. But I know a 06+ Z with some gears, a good driver, and some boltons will be able to hang with one pretty well.
Also whoever posted that **** up about a gen 4 ACR Viper going 10.90. Show me that slip asap. Last I checked the record time for any of them was a 11.50at Atco.
03-05, all were the same in the interior. Weighing in at 3188.
06, 3339, revised engine producing 300 hp @ 7000 rpm, along with revised interior increasing the weight nearly 200 lbs. bixenon headlights, 18" wheels standard etc.
07, 3339, same as 06, standard bixenon headlights etc.
370Z 3374, now this is a huge misconception. The 370Z is the heaviest of all the Z's. Everyone expected it to weigh less that the 350Z because of claims etc. So then right before production Nissan had to add safety equipment adding weight.
Now some people are wondering if the quickest 03-05 went 13.5 @ xxx mph how is it possible the 07-08 went low 13's. Easy. Check this out.
http://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-d...r-numbers.html
That is a dyno showing that the 03-05 averages 230 whp on a dyno, the 06 averages 240 whp on a dyno, hr averages 260 whp, and the VHR(370) 280 whp. So there is a difference of 40 whp between the 03-07 Z's. Now add in some low DA's and some great Atco like track prep and I put money on it you could easily do 13.0's 13.1's all day long on stock treads.
Some of you on this board need to open up your minds. Just because you have a LS1 powered car doesn't mean you have to be ignorant (unknowing) to other cars, that's how the wrong information is spread. Now some people truly believe the Z's are 14 second cars. I drove mine stock to a 13.9 on shitty tires with a shitty 2.1 60' my first night out ever in RWD. So with more practice some better tires I'm willing to bet I could crank out a 1.9 60' and do 13.5's and that's with an 06.
Also our cars are not geared anything like the C5's or the LS1 Z28's. They are extremely long gears meant for the strip. Whereas our cars are made more for track racing and autox. Hence why we're in and out of the 1-4 gears so quickly. I give respect to the LS1's because I know firsthand what they can do. But I know a 06+ Z with some gears, a good driver, and some boltons will be able to hang with one pretty well.
Also whoever posted that **** up about a gen 4 ACR Viper going 10.90. Show me that slip asap. Last I checked the record time for any of them was a 11.50at Atco.
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I think the 370 z would be better with a rb in it, or atleast an option for it. I mean dam a 450 hp 370 z turbo would put the hurt on some v8 boys. But no one in nissan has any nuts to build it. Same thing for GM. Why the hell the new ss dident get a blower option. I know u can swap **** for days between gm cars but some people dont want to deal with it. The zr1 got a blower hell the zr1 blower will fit in the cowl with no issues.
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I think the 370 z would be better with a rb in it, or atleast an option for it. I mean dam a 450 hp 370 z turbo would put the hurt on some v8 boys. But no one in nissan has any nuts to build it. Same thing for GM. Why the hell the new ss dident get a blower option. I know u can swap **** for days between gm cars but some people dont want to deal with it. The zr1 got a blower hell the zr1 blower will fit in the cowl with no issues.
Or atleast that is what I read in the November 09 R&T...
LOL, Location NJ/Japan... Somebody's a weaboo (Z33 Option). And that is coming from a three times Nissan owner, looking for my fourth...
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i kinda like the new 370s, what are you talking about gears though? were running 3:23s and 2:73s stock.... those arent strip gears by any means, 4:10s are strip gears, if you wanna talk gears id like to see a stock but stalled and geared auto vs a geared 370, id say the ls1 would come out on top.
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BTW..While we are still on the 370Z subject...260-280 rwhp and 3400 pounds dose not equate to an automatic 12 second car...The LS1's REALLY dyno 290-310 rwhp...My 2004 AUTOMATIC LS1 dynoed 299 rwhp SAE bone stock and only weighed 3270 pounds..And thats a 12 second car with the grace of God....Your talking about a 270 rwhp car at 3400 pounds..A 13.2 would be pretty good to say the leaste...
With an average of 270 rwhp and 3370 pounds vrs the average of 300 rwhp for the LS1 and 3450 pounds it's not hard to see why the LS1's in a 1998 camaro will still edge out the 370Z...
I know you love your car and I as well think the new 370Z is BEAUTIFUL and I almost bought a 350Z when they first came out...But your fighting a fire by throwing bits of bacon brother...Every vid you will see will show the LS1's kicking ***....
In my 99 Viper with 450 freaking HP I had a few LS1's give me fits with just bolt ons or cam ect....A 350Z could be supercharged and I would have just laughed and only a TT would have made me worry any....****..A TT LS1 and I wont even show up to race..Whats the point..Im getting murdered no matter what I show up in...
Again all bullshit aside....I havent owned a camaro or vette in atleaste 4 years....But the LS1's are dayum impressive no matter what you drive *****except for the fat *** ugly GTO's...They are slow pieces of ****************
With an average of 270 rwhp and 3370 pounds vrs the average of 300 rwhp for the LS1 and 3450 pounds it's not hard to see why the LS1's in a 1998 camaro will still edge out the 370Z...
I know you love your car and I as well think the new 370Z is BEAUTIFUL and I almost bought a 350Z when they first came out...But your fighting a fire by throwing bits of bacon brother...Every vid you will see will show the LS1's kicking ***....
In my 99 Viper with 450 freaking HP I had a few LS1's give me fits with just bolt ons or cam ect....A 350Z could be supercharged and I would have just laughed and only a TT would have made me worry any....****..A TT LS1 and I wont even show up to race..Whats the point..Im getting murdered no matter what I show up in...
Again all bullshit aside....I havent owned a camaro or vette in atleaste 4 years....But the LS1's are dayum impressive no matter what you drive *****except for the fat *** ugly GTO's...They are slow pieces of ****************
However you're telling me that you'd struggle with bolt on LS1 cars, but not the TT 350z's? Well a stock block supercharged Z puts out just as much as a single turbo, TT, bolt on 150 shot etc. They all would trap in the 120 range so how is it that only a TT would give you worries. Might want to stay alert in that Viper. But the 370z's are able to handle 600 rwhp+ on the stock blocks so you really need to worry.
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I think the 370 z would be better with a rb in it, or atleast an option for it. I mean dam a 450 hp 370 z turbo would put the hurt on some v8 boys. But no one in nissan has any nuts to build it. Same thing for GM. Why the hell the new ss dident get a blower option. I know u can swap **** for days between gm cars but some people dont want to deal with it. The zr1 got a blower hell the zr1 blower will fit in the cowl with no issues.
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i kinda like the new 370s, what are you talking about gears though? were running 3:23s and 2:73s stock.... those arent strip gears by any means, 4:10s are strip gears, if you wanna talk gears id like to see a stock but stalled and geared auto vs a geared 370, id say the ls1 would come out on top.
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What's so funny about my location? And who cares what or how many Nissan's you've owned.