C5 vs 2011 Mustang GT
05-16-2010, 10:02 AM
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I thought it couldve been the driver to until i think he said in 1 of his comments he runs high 10s... But we all know racing from a dig and a roll is completely different. Different powerbands etc.. Also your right its a few short of 125 hp but you would figure that being a few hundred pounds less (terminator) than a gt500 that would overcome only the few missing HP that would make 125hp as you say is needed by a greater margin.
05-16-2010, 11:33 AM
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Not to mention, and I can't confirm but this stock 011 GT:
Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO.
Edit: The car has the 3.31 gearing and not the 3.55 gearing. Also on base 18 inch 235/50 18 tires. Not bad at all.
Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO.
Edit: The car has the 3.31 gearing and not the 3.55 gearing. Also on base 18 inch 235/50 18 tires. Not bad at all.
05-16-2010, 01:28 PM
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Sorry but the new mustangs will beat a stock c5 1/4 mile. topend is after the 1/4 last time i check. proven 12.7 1/4 havnt seen a bone stock straight from gm c5 run that when these mustangs are hitting that every test they do. When people start s/c these cars thats only going to get worst for gm. We thought the termi was an animal wait till this mustang has boost with already 395rwhp on the motor we will only see 500+rwhp. Its going to be good finally i can race a fast mustang. (I like the challenge)
05-16-2010, 02:31 PM
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When people start s/c these cars thats only going to get worst for gm. We thought the termi was an animal wait till this mustang has boost with already 395rwhp on the motor we will only see 500+rwhp. Its going to be good finally i can race a fast mustang. (I like the challenge)
The 5.0s have a high CR.. They aren't going to be loving boost too much. I have not seen any insight on internals yet but I'm assuming it will not be forged and that is a pretty safe assumption. Therefore they will be limited in that department as well.
That was a pretty ignorant post.
05-16-2010, 03:24 PM
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The hell are you smoking? A bone stock ls1 on 6#s will see over 500Rwhp. Just because a car makes a decent amount of power in stock NA form, most certainly does not mean it is going to like boost. The termi was and still is an animal, much more than the new 5.0 mustang, do your research.
The 5.0s have a high CR.. They aren't going to be loving boost too much. I have not seen any insight on internals yet but I'm assuming it will not be forged and that is a pretty safe assumption. Therefore they will be limited in that department as well.
That was a pretty ignorant post.
The 5.0s have a high CR.. They aren't going to be loving boost too much. I have not seen any insight on internals yet but I'm assuming it will not be forged and that is a pretty safe assumption. Therefore they will be limited in that department as well.
That was a pretty ignorant post.
Edit: My bad, was just forged crank that i read, not sure on the other internals
05-16-2010, 04:10 PM
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Sorry but the new mustangs will beat a stock c5 1/4 mile. topend is after the 1/4 last time i check. proven 12.7 1/4 havnt seen a bone stock straight from gm c5 run that when these mustangs are hitting that every test they do. When people start s/c these cars thats only going to get worst for gm. We thought the termi was an animal wait till this mustang has boost with already 395rwhp on the motor we will only see 500+rwhp. Its going to be good finally i can race a fast mustang. (I like the challenge)
No! the 5.0's are not hitting that every test. Infact thats the fastest test so far bone stock. The slowest being a 13.3 at 107
Yeah termis have IRS also not as good for drag racingh even with lower weight. He was probably exaggerating then. Not many 516 whp termis running high 10's that I know of more likely mid/lower 11's. If he was pulling 10's he wouldn't have lost as bad. My advice is the same to termis due to the IRS if he was putting down around 560-570 whp and ran 1/4 mile it would be a different race and different out come. Assuming the Z is stock of course. IMHO. Any way he was about 50hp short in my opinion.
Besides i know alot of Terminator owners swap out that IRS for a solid not saying he did but who knows. I guess that would be the only way he could've hit 10s with 516rwhp but even then would still be hard to achieve.
05-16-2010, 05:02 PM
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Yes a c5 has hit a 12.7 only with a manual though and its rare!! Infact i believe thats the fastest time for a stock c5.
No! the 5.0's are not hitting that every test. Infact thats the fastest test so far bone stock. The slowest being a 13.3 at 107
Yes thats all true but this was a roll race not from a dig where the IRS matters. From a roll it doesn't matter that it's an IRS since its not launching from a standstill.
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Besides i know alot of Terminator owners swap out that IRS for a solid not saying he did but who knows. I guess that would be the only way he could've hit 10s with 516rwhp but even then would still be hard to achieve.
No! the 5.0's are not hitting that every test. Infact thats the fastest test so far bone stock. The slowest being a 13.3 at 107
Yes thats all true but this was a roll race not from a dig where the IRS matters. From a roll it doesn't matter that it's an IRS since its not launching from a standstill.
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Besides i know alot of Terminator owners swap out that IRS for a solid not saying he did but who knows. I guess that would be the only way he could've hit 10s with 516rwhp but even then would still be hard to achieve.
Well I just checked the Dara Base and apparently there are Termis running in the 10's with low 500's ...not many though. In general it looks like it takes about 560-570 or more to run 10.5-10.80. Thats about 125 more hp to the ground than a C6Z06 makes stock.
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05-16-2010, 05:48 PM
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05-16-2010, 07:03 PM
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lemons 12 i laugh at you they are fully forged you do your research. They can drop compression 8:5:1 just like a termi and its a bigger ci motor so how is it so diffrent. I never said ls motors cant put out hp higher than 500 so relax but with all your post you act like you know it all when you dont. But its cool im a girl and i can still take you to school if you want to learn.
05-16-2010, 07:10 PM
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You really cant talk **** about a car that havnt been on the streets that long. We all said ford needs a s/c and look they proved all of us wrong there beating are ls3 ss camaro in the 1/4 mile with a smaller ci motor with no s/c and without having the old push rod motor to do it. I give them props and the mustang is supose to compete with the camaro not the vette. The cobra is going to get faster and so is the camaro.
05-16-2010, 07:22 PM
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You really can't talk **** about a car that has only been out a few weeks. But it has taken them nearly 20 years to get a GT faster than a Camaro.
Ford didn't need a S/C to stay with GM, but that's what it took. Pushrods motors are old technology, OHV should make much more power. All they ever had to do was to give it similar displacement as GM and they would have been fast a long time ago.
Ford didn't need a S/C to stay with GM, but that's what it took. Pushrods motors are old technology, OHV should make much more power. All they ever had to do was to give it similar displacement as GM and they would have been fast a long time ago.
05-16-2010, 07:23 PM
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Wow i come on here and somtimes i am amazed to see how people can claim their a veteran tech; when such narrowed minded and dont really read up on facts (like you lemons12 not knowing the internals on the new gt's ) You should read up on the new mustangs before you post you as-sume. 
Advise to people on ls1tech :dont believe more than half the people on here..believe the ls-owners that have the car they built themselves to prove it.
Advise to people on ls1tech :dont believe more than half the people on here..believe the ls-owners that have the car they built themselves to prove it.
05-16-2010, 07:25 PM
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You really can't talk **** about a car that has only been out a few weeks. But it has taken them nearly 20 years to get a GT faster than a Camaro.
Ford didn't need a S/C to stay with GM, but that's what it took. Pushrods motors are old technology, OHV should make much more power. All they ever had to do was to give it similar displacement as GM and they would have been fast a long time ago.
Ford didn't need a S/C to stay with GM, but that's what it took. Pushrods motors are old technology, OHV should make much more power. All they ever had to do was to give it similar displacement as GM and they would have been fast a long time ago.
