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Old 05-11-2010 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WSsick
well, your posts would lead one to believe there is no beating an LSx under any circumstances. all i was getting across was that it is an acceptionally good handling car, which you cannot deny......unless you are a fanboy. you cant deny facts. like i said, i think the c5z would be faster, but that doesnt take away from a 1.2x g pull
The only point I was making is that 2valve 4.6 Mustangs aren't anything special.
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Originally Posted by NBM.Z28™
The only point I was making is that 2valve 4.6 Mustangs aren't anything special.
All of this arguing, & thats all you were trying to prove. Well this was pointless haha. S/C 2valve 4.6's are not impressive because they are S/C and put down around the same HP as a stock LS1. I am NOT a fanboy, I had a 5.0 & am getting a Z28. Just saying.
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Originally Posted by NBM.Z28™
You truly are an idiotic fanbody if you are trying to compare a 2v 4.6 Mustang GT with a Corvette C5 Z06.
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No, it makes sense.

1.2x > whatever the c5z was.

I believe the ZR1 is like 1.10 IIRC.

Don't be such a blindly loyal idiotic fanboiii.
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you are an idiot as well then.
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well i know this was probably rhetorical but i think the c5z's pull just a little over a g in lateral accel. something like 1.05
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Ok. He is not getting the car anymore....but... The GT had a 03 cobra body kit (which is gay, i hate cobra clones), a S/C roush motor & i'm 99% sure it had supporting bolt ons. I did a little research on a 01 Roush Stage 3 motor (S/C) & they came stock with 360hp & 375ft/lb's, I am not choosing sides here, I am simply stating the facts... Any car with the Motor Listed above will easily be around 360rwhp with Bolt ons, Pulley, & a tune. 360baseline hp with drive train loss is around 315-320rwhp (I think, I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT DRIVETRAIN LOSS) so 360rwhp is very reasonable for that motor. Just saying.
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I highly doubt a 2001 Roush Stage 3 puts down that much power stock, ive rode in one & it wasnt that impressive, for the price anyway.
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how? are you trying to say that 1.2x g's is LESS than 1.05 g's? all i am stating is that the g's imply a very good handling car. i never said the stang was a better car than the vette, or that the 2v was better than the LS1. re-read what i said. also, check my sig, what do i drive? yeah, an LS1. i would bet the c5z would be faster around a road course, but i cant say for sure.


did that get through your thick fanboi head?



thats about what an LS1 fbod loses through the DT, how is it not believable?
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C5 Z06 Corvette would destroy a 2v Roush Mustang on a road course.


I own a '00 Z28 LS1 & a '95 Cobra 5.0, how does that make me a fanboy?
Originally Posted by WSsick
well, your posts would lead one to believe there is no beating an LSx under any circumstances. all i was getting across was that it is an acceptionally good handling car, which you cannot deny......unless you are a fanboy. you cant deny facts. like i said, i think the c5z would be faster, but that doesnt take away from a 1.2x g pull
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The only point I was making is that 2valve 4.6 Mustangs aren't anything special.
After all of that you STILL arne't getting it. NO ONE here is trying to say the 2V 4.6 is somethign special. We are saying you are Ignorant to Roush's and you have done nothing but proven that to be so.

FACTs that you dispute:

360rwhp is not only doable, but pretty common in a bolt on, pulley, tuned setup.

they pull as good if not better slalom rating than a C5/C5Z

Your SOTP feel has nothing to do with what the car can and can't do.
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always entertaining down here
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Originally Posted by NBM.Z28™
The only point I was making is that 2valve 4.6 Mustangs aren't anything special.
NO ONE EVEN SAID THATTTTTTTTTTTTT

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always entertaining down here
with all the ignorance floating around, it always will be...
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Lets keep this thread going. Its making work go by faster
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Originally Posted by WSsick
NO ONE EVEN SAID THATTTTTTTTTTTTT



with all the ignorance floating around, it always will be...
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Not being one for the spread of ignorance, I have to correct myself in my mixup on the Skidpad (not slalom) rating's. What can I say..I'm not a road racer at heart. LOL The NE 360R and 380R roush's pulled 1.0g's on the skidpad and ~62mph on the slalom. (I found the C6 rated at .96gs, so still a better handler than a vette)

The roush 427Rs are the one's rated at 1.2+ G's.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/22/v...ush-vs-saleen/
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Originally Posted by WSsick
how? are you trying to say that 1.2x g's is LESS than 1.05 g's? all i am stating is that the g's imply a very good handling car.
And thats where you'd be wrong. Pulling G's on a 200ft flat circle skidpad does not show a cars "handling".

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they pull as good if not better slalom rating than a C5/C5Z
Please tell me where you are getting this info from.
Everything I can find on a Roush stage 3 SN95 shows a low .90 Gs on the skidpad (C5 Z06 being over 1G) and a mid 60mph slalom speed (C5 Z06 being upper 60s/low 70s).


Originally Posted by ponygt65
Not being one for the spread of ignorance, I have to correct myself in my mixup on the Skidpad (not slalom) rating's. What can I say..I'm not a road racer at heart. LOL The NE 360R and 380R roush's pulled 1.0g's on the skidpad and ~62mph on the slalom. (I found the C6 rated at .96gs, so still a better handler than a vette)

The roush 427Rs are the one's rated at 1.2+ G's.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/22/v...ush-vs-saleen/
Again, a skidpad test is not handling...
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
And thats where you'd be wrong. Pulling G's on a 200ft flat circle skidpad does not show a cars "handling".


Please tell me where you are getting this info from.
Everything I can find on a Roush stage 3 SN95 shows a low .90 Gs on the skidpad (C5 Z06 being over 1G) and a mid 60mph slalom speed (C5 Z06 being upper 60s/low 70s).




Again, a skidpad test is not handling...
Make up your mind. Do you want me to prove it......or is it pointless as it's not a proof of handling?

I'm not into road racing, but a skidpad test is about all the consumers have to go off of, so that's why it's widely used.
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
And thats where you'd be wrong. Pulling G's on a 200ft flat circle skidpad does not show a cars "handling".


Please tell me where you are getting this info from.
Everything I can find on a Roush stage 3 SN95 shows a low .90 Gs on the skidpad (C5 Z06 being over 1G) and a mid 60mph slalom speed (C5 Z06 being upper 60s/low 70s).




Again, a skidpad test is not handling...
i would agree its not a complete test, but it shows something about the handing and grip abilties of a car. should it be the benchmark? definitely not.



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