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Old 07-01-2011, 11:01 AM
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Default H/C/I LS1 vs Ported 03 Cobra

I have a race coming up with a friend of mine.


03 Cobra
Posi Ported Eaton blower
2.76 Pulley
Fluidyne heat exchanger
JLT intake
Catless X pipe
Magnaflow cat back

Getting dyno tuned on a dyno jet this weekend. Expecting 490-515 rwhp

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2000 WS6 6 speed

TFS 215 heads 60cc
227/233 custom cam
UD pulley
Full Exhaust
Fast 92 ported intake
92mm throttle body
Z06 MAF
98mm Lid

stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears

455rwhp 414rwtq on a Mustang Dyno


If both cars are driven equally and both get traction, who do you think would win on a roll race ?
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WS6 all day
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I was supposed to be doing almost the same exact race in like 2 weeks but the cobra went and spun a bearing and is torn apart now. But i would say you would have had the edge. You and i make the same power diff car but if you win i would feel safe in saying i would have too C5 Z06. Let us know how it goes! Take Vids!
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There will be a video and the race will be within the next few weeks.

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If both cars run good then it'll be a close race with the cobra having a slight advantage. But Im going to go ahead and guess that you'll pull out the win.
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
If both cars run good then it'll be a close race with the cobra having a slight advantage. But Im going to go ahead and guess that you'll pull out the win.
Why do you think the cobra will have an advantage ? Just curious is all...

I think it will be a good race either way.
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You all the way brother. That's a real nice setup you have.
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He needs another 25rwhp or so to be there. You by 1-1.5 lengths.
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What Is your race weight?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
What Is your race weight?
Not sure, but I plan to find out this weekend. I will be using a highway weigh station.
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Your Trans Am should pull away up top. When you take weight/powerbands into consideration you'll start pulling up top imo.
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where do you plan to start the run from and for how long? unless your car is heavy, you should take it unless you run his race everytime.
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If you were already planning on losing ac for the ram air, do it. If not keep ac. If that is going to change the outcome of a race, its too lose anyway. I also personally would skip taking the seats out.

If this is some big race with huge **** talking, might be different opinion.

The win is definitely is your favor. Higher the race starts and longer it goes the more you have it locked down. On average a cobra needs around 70-80rwhp more than an fbody to make it just about a dead nuts race.
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Originally Posted by brians91formula
Why do you think the cobra will have an advantage ? Just curious is all...

I think it will be a good race either way.
Because he makes enough power to off set the weight difference.
Originally Posted by lemons12
If you were already planning on losing ac for the ram air, do it. If not keep ac. If that is going to change the outcome of a race, its too lose anyway. I also personally would skip taking the seats out.

If this is some big race with huge **** talking, might be different opinion.

The win is definitely is your favor. Higher the race starts and longer it goes the more you have it locked down. On average a cobra needs around 70-80rwhp more than an fbody to make it just about a dead nuts race.
70-80 is way too high unless the fbody has a lot of weight reduction. A properly running cobra only needs about 40hp more to make it an even race. But then again i know some cobras that run very well like they should. A ported blower cobra should be very low 11's at least
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Yeah but you also got to remember I was tuned on a mustang dyno. The dynojet he is being tuned on reads about 30hp higher.
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Assuming a typical roll race from 20ishmph- 130+, you'll get him but not by much. Really I see this more as a driver's race. A friend of mine has an 03 with a 2.8 pulley, unported Eaton, bolt ons that made 468rwhp and runs 11.5's @122-123mph. Assuming equal drivers, you'll get him but no more than 1.5 car lengths.

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Either way i'm thinking this should be a good race. Hopefully it turns out in my favor but who knows.
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Because he makes enough power to off set the weight difference.


70-80 is way too high unless the fbody has a lot of weight reduction. A properly running cobra only needs about 40hp more to make it an even race. But then again i know some cobras that run very well like they should. A ported blower cobra should be very low 11's at least
Most head cam fbodys are under the 3500 mark.. He is saying he might take a little more out so I will assume 3400 or so. Cobra Is probably around 3800.

It will be very, very rare for a cobra to only need 40 more rwhp to outrun/equal an fbody from a roll.60 would be a fair average both ways.

Hell 70rwhp more than a c5z and they still get pulled.

Their weight hurts them pretty badly, just like a 5th own camaro.
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Cobra put down 478rwhp on a dynojet today.
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With a ported blower?

That's very low.

Almost same exact setup from a buddy on a dynojet and put down 513rwhp.

You are going to run off from him.


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