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Old 10-25-2011, 11:42 AM
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Default Alright let's hear some HP guesses before the tune....

Well I finally finished the valve spring swap, fired the car up after the cam. Runs great for an untuned car, the "Check Engine" light was flashing for a bit.. that was a little strange, but it went away and didn't flash again.
Here's the combo
1999 Trans AM
T56
Stock ten bolt
Stock WS6 Exhaust
LS6 intake
Stock 243 heads
Comp beehive springs
EPS 226/234 113, .598/.601
Stock Exhaust Manifolds.

The only thing holding me back are the headers, should I spend the cash on some or get a tune first? What are the guesses on HP before and after headers?
Car goes in for a tune on November 7th.

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I'd say get the headers first, then tune it.

Actually, you should've started with all the required bolt-ons before going for a cam (UD pulley, CAI, headers, throttle body, exhaust system...etc).
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Get Headers. IMO you did things *** backwards. Sorry. Always do full bolt-ons then internal upgrades. The motor needs to breathe.
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Headers aren't something I would want to do on my driveway. I'll have someone do them eventually. In fact I'm thinking of a before and after header dyno run to see what they are really worth.
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Originally Posted by IRONFIST
Headers aren't something I would want to do on my driveway. I'll have someone do them eventually. In fact I'm thinking of a before and after header dyno run to see what they are really worth.
Can be done in a day by yourself. Not hard.
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If you have spend the effort in a springs/cam upgrade, why not use the basic bolt ons? I would say cam/springs with a otherwise stock setup (would like to see ported heads with a cam upgrade..) you will not see a significant increase in rwhp. 3-5% range. Have you tuned the car at all before the changes? I frequently can "find" 10-20 hp for my customers by just running a basic tune on a stock ls. If this is the case, going from untuned to cam/springs+tune might give you an 8-15% increase depending on the tuner..
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Originally Posted by Daniel0026
If you have spend the effort in a springs/cam upgrade, why not use the basic bolt ons? I would say cam/springs with a otherwise stock setup (would like to see ported heads with a cam upgrade..) you will not see a significant increase in rwhp. 3-5% range. Have you tuned the car at all before the changes? I frequently can "find" 10-20 hp for my customers by just running a basic tune on a stock ls. If this is the case, going from untuned to cam/springs+tune might give you an 8-15% increase depending on the tuner..
The car is not just stock with cam/ springs. I swapped the heads to 243s and the intake to an LS6. Granted those are stock pieces on ZO6 corvettes... But the only thing still stock on my trans am are the exhaust manifolds.
I understand that headers would net me a pretty good gain, but I'm going to dyno it as is right now and see what it puts down.
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yeah just do a base line to see HP results, dont waste your money on a tune until you get your headers in
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If you took the heads off to put on 243's, that was the time to do the headers.
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what kind of numbers did you get? Install the headers yet?
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Originally Posted by SKEETS63IMPALA
what kind of numbers did you get? Install the headers yet?
About 349hp, I'm a bit disappointed as I don't expect to gain 50hp from headers... I think I may be the first person on the planet to make less then 400whp with an eps cam.
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Originally Posted by IRONFIST
About 349hp, I'm a bit disappointed as I don't expect to gain 50hp from headers... I think I may be the first person on the planet to make less then 400whp with an eps cam.





I wouldnt be dissapointed, 350 is actually pretty good for just a cam...
Check out my SIG, and I'll let you know what my HP at the wheels was.
Getting my Dynotune Tomorrow, 11/19/11.

Talk to you all soon...
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Originally Posted by IRONFIST
About 349hp, I'm a bit disappointed as I don't expect to gain 50hp from headers... I think I may be the first person on the planet to make less then 400whp with an eps cam.
I have a EPS "cam only" set up and only dyno'd 388 rwhp, but also ran a 12.0 in a 2 ton car taking it "easy" on the car.

What does this all mean you ask? Just proof positive that you can't drag race a dyno. Numbers may be neat for bragging rights, but where it counts is at the track, and that is where you will see it make a difference.



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