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03-24-2011, 03:01 PM
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CobraR: You are talking about SSO cars running 7s, I was talking about a full-weight street car with AC, heat, stereo, etc... race weight was over 3650.
Taking two exact cars built 100% the same way minus the trans setup: the manual car will run the higher mph, but the auto will run the faster ET....usually.... Unless you are Justin Burcham
I put an auto in my Cobra because the so-called "indestructible" Viper-spec 6 speed I was running blew on a run down the Mexican Mile....I wanted to bracket race the car and make it single-turbo for NMRA, but I lost my job....so, had to cancel the plans.
Nevertheless, the 4r70w swap in my car was one of the first Cobras to run this setup. I did not know what to expect, as I had little experience with automatic transmissions. My buddy, Jesse Houseman, is one of the BEST Ford techs around and completed the swap with little to go off of at the time. Running two back-to-back ten second passes in that heat and humidity made us happy; while the mph was not crazy-fast, the car was consistent and made me smile...so, I dont see what the issue is?
Taking two exact cars built 100% the same way minus the trans setup: the manual car will run the higher mph, but the auto will run the faster ET....usually.... Unless you are Justin Burcham
I put an auto in my Cobra because the so-called "indestructible" Viper-spec 6 speed I was running blew on a run down the Mexican Mile....I wanted to bracket race the car and make it single-turbo for NMRA, but I lost my job....so, had to cancel the plans.
Nevertheless, the 4r70w swap in my car was one of the first Cobras to run this setup. I did not know what to expect, as I had little experience with automatic transmissions. My buddy, Jesse Houseman, is one of the BEST Ford techs around and completed the swap with little to go off of at the time. Running two back-to-back ten second passes in that heat and humidity made us happy; while the mph was not crazy-fast, the car was consistent and made me smile...so, I dont see what the issue is?
03-24-2011, 03:02 PM
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The research I am referring to is a manual trans car not being able to build boost off the line. You said the automatic had this advantage. You sticking to that story or did you just become smarter over the last 3 hours? Autos are more consistent, easier to go quick which makes them nice for drag racing. But you take 2 identical cars with the same crankshaft HP, put a 5 speed or 6 speed in one and your auto of choice in the other(couldn't care less whether its a TH350 or 400 or whatever) and a good driver in the manual trans car that can shift his *** off(never said this wasn't part of the equation), the manual trans has the potential to be quicker and definitely trap significantly higher. I am done with this discussion now, time to get back to the fun stuff.
Had a 93 GT mustang with a turbo first a 5spd then a c4, c4 was faster. Sorry, no research needed, been there done that. 12.1@117 2.1 60' vs 11.8@124. 2.3 60'. 11psi, same setup, just changed trans. That was with a slightly better than stock stall, no RPM off the line, no boost off the line, car would just push the tires. You are right, you should stick to the fun stuff and leave the real world to people that have actually done something other than read about it doing research.
03-24-2011, 03:06 PM
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CobraR: You are talking about SSO cars running 7s, I was talking about a full-weight street car with AC, heat, stereo, etc... race weight was over 3650.
Taking two exact cars built 100% the same way minus the trans setup: the manual car will run the higher mph, but the auto will run the faster ET....usually.... Unless you are Justin Burcham
I put an auto in my Cobra because the so-called "indestructible" Viper-spec 6 speed I was running blew on a run down the Mexican Mile....I wanted to bracket race the car and make it single-turbo for NMRA, but I lost my job....so, had to cancel the plans.
Nevertheless, the 4r70w swap in my car was one of the first Cobras to run this setup. I did not know what to expect, as I had little experience with automatic transmissions. My buddy, Jesse Houseman, is one of the BEST Ford techs around and completed the swap with little to go off of at the time. Running two back-to-back ten second passes in that heat and humidity made us happy; while the mph was not crazy-fast, the car was consistent and made me smile...so, I dont see what the issue is?
Taking two exact cars built 100% the same way minus the trans setup: the manual car will run the higher mph, but the auto will run the faster ET....usually.... Unless you are Justin Burcham
I put an auto in my Cobra because the so-called "indestructible" Viper-spec 6 speed I was running blew on a run down the Mexican Mile....I wanted to bracket race the car and make it single-turbo for NMRA, but I lost my job....so, had to cancel the plans.
Nevertheless, the 4r70w swap in my car was one of the first Cobras to run this setup. I did not know what to expect, as I had little experience with automatic transmissions. My buddy, Jesse Houseman, is one of the BEST Ford techs around and completed the swap with little to go off of at the time. Running two back-to-back ten second passes in that heat and humidity made us happy; while the mph was not crazy-fast, the car was consistent and made me smile...so, I dont see what the issue is?
No issue, was just having fun with the statement that an automatic went into a boosted car and slowed down. It was 2 on one vs AJ, so I had to jump in.
Thats why I put at the bottom not to take anything I say seriously. I have had my fair share of boosted, nitrous and NA cars. 5/6spds and autos.
. Cant wait to meet this guy now!
03-24-2011, 03:13 PM
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Had a 93 GT mustang with a turbo first a 5spd then a c4, c4 was faster. Sorry, no research needed, been there done that. 12.1@117 2.1 60' vs 11.8@124. 2.3 60'. 11psi, same setup, just changed trans. That was with a slightly better than stock stall, no RPM off the line, no boost off the line, car would just push the tires. You are right, you should stick to the fun stuff and leave the real world to people that have actually done something other than read about it doing research.
03-24-2011, 03:19 PM
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No issue, was just having fun with the statement that an automatic went into a boosted car and slowed down. It was 2 on one vs AJ, so I had to jump in.
Thats why I put at the bottom not to take anything I say seriously. I have had my fair share of boosted, nitrous and NA cars. 5/6spds and autos.
Thats why I put at the bottom not to take anything I say seriously. I have had my fair share of boosted, nitrous and NA cars. 5/6spds and autos.
Seriously, we are all friends on here and believe me, I have taken my fair share of ball-busting from everyone on MANY occasions.
Other than C5kid, I cannot think of anyone else I would want on my side in a bar fight other than AJ....real talk!
03-24-2011, 03:21 PM
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I thought he liked 2 guys????
Seriously, we are all friends on here and believe me, I have taken my fair share of ball-busting from everyone on MANY occasions.
Other than C5kid, I cannot think of anyone else I would want on my side in a bar fight other than AJ....real talk!
Seriously, we are all friends on here and believe me, I have taken my fair share of ball-busting from everyone on MANY occasions.
Other than C5kid, I cannot think of anyone else I would want on my side in a bar fight other than AJ....real talk!
03-24-2011, 03:32 PM
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Bob, I already have a right knee replaced,four years ago,thanks to rrd printing,left ones,acting up now,but I don't have all the 12 hr days to deal with. It's all good,looks like the camaro will finally be out this year!! Bought some steamrollers for tires....33-18.50-15s its going to be an,old,school pro st. ride.
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03-24-2011, 04:37 PM
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Bob, I already have a right knee replaced,four years ago,thanks to rrd printing,left ones,acting up now,but I don't have all the 12 hr days to deal with. It's all good,looks like the camaro will finally be out this year!! Bought some steamrollers for tires....33-18.50-15s its going to be an,old,school pro st. ride.