TwinTurboTurd

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This statement proves that you don't deserve the right to own a gun.

1998silverbird

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Why is that?? If the Gov Passes a law that Bans guns I am gonna follow that Law!! If I don't follow that law I am a criminal correct? If its un American because I will follow the law of this land then I guess I am not American then. I would be pissed that I cant own a gun but I will get over it. Owning a gun is way down on my list of whats important to me in life.

If you don't follow laws then that's on you but I do, or try my best to do. I don't mess around with gun laws especially while living in NJ. If you would rather have a civil war or revolution then that's your choice. I have been to Valley Forge, and to Gettysburg and have seen all the memorials from our last Civil war. No thanks.

The criminals wont be the biggest concern for the Gov if they pass a law to ban guns. Its gonna be the people who wont give up there guns that posses the biggest threat.

So tell what will you do if they, your gov, passes a law that bans firearms?

TwinTurboTurd

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You need to read up on your world history and consider the quality of life for your children and grandchildren. My argument really has less to do with guns and more to do with rights. You don't seem to understand the consequences of forfeiting a right.

By forfeiting a right, you are paving the way for future politicians to push their agendas and further amend or revoke rights. The problem is you want to solve a long term problem immediately without considering the direct and indirect consequences on future generations of Americans.

The government is not always right and the fact that you will blindly follow them without question makes you a BIG part of the problem with this country. I bet you believe everything you see on the news and read on the Internet. I'm a French supermodel. Bonjour.

I WILL NOT turn in my guns.

senicalj4579

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1998silverbird

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So we are complaining that Criminals dont follow laws and are a reason why we have so much violence in this country but if the Gov makes new laws to turn in certain guns that you will not follow them? Wouldnt that make you a criminal as well? Criminals are whats hurting this country not people who are willing to follow laws! This country was built by a not perfect gov and now a not perfect gov is trying to fix the issues we have.

I dont want to solve anything, just throwing out ideas. Only thing I am saying is that if they pass new laws I am gonna follow them. I am not one for breaking gun laws and therefore I would follow them.

LS1LT1

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It was NOT ok, they were flawed in that regard, as you said a "not perfect government".
So now, your "logic" is suggesting that we should throw out THE ENTIRE Constitution/Bill of Rights based on the horrible mistakes (involving what was (wrongly) a WORLD ACCEPTED VIEW about the human race at the time) that a few white guys made 200+ years ago?
Because if you're willing to do that then I assume you're also just as willing to allow the authorities to enter your home without forewarning to take your firearms (or your cars, your wife, your child) for no valid reason or even go straight to prison for what you and I are doing right now...freely expressing our opinions publicly, rights that are ALSO protected under those very same documents.

Please, don't ever take ANY lines within that Constitution/Bill of Rights for granted.
Dismiss just one of them and then suddenly THEY'LL ALL be reopened to revision/reinterpretation.
You can't have it both ways bro.






Today it's a .50 caliber bullet ban and only 10 round magazines (yes, NJ is in the process of putting those very bills through the system).
One more school shooting and then it will be .45 & .40 caliber ammo and 5 round magazines.
Then it's pitbulls.
Then it's V8 RWD performance cars.
Then it's big screen TVs.
Then it's how many children you can or can't have.
etc. etc.

Yes, a law abiding population is critical for a civil society to exist/flourish.
But at what point do you decide to no longer comply with laws that are clearly deemed as unconstitutional and overly invasive?
You (and SO many others) seem FAR too willing to do anything and everything that your government tells you is "correct" or "right" and honestly, that's starting to scare me a little more than even some criminal with a gun does.

INMY01TA

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No. You are under no legal obligation to follow unconstitutional laws.

jetaws6

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Well sb-281 is moving forward. Its looking real grim for us. Buy your lowers while you can before you get labeled a criminal

INMY01TA

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All gun owners are already considered criminals in the legislatures eyes here.