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Kenny H The new automatics that come in the Machs are very strong with nothing more than a valve body and converter they will live in the 10s.
The cast cranks that come in the automatic mach1 is very strong.(not as strong as the cobra crank I know).
If you think the stock mach1 motor will blow up with boost then you need to spend more time around them. I have seen them pistons hold up to 450 rwhp for a long time with no problems.Its all about the tune. if everybody would tune them for the street and not the dyno motors would last longer.
I know the Cobra is fast I had two of them and ran low 11s on Nittos "1.62 60 ft" and when it was dead stock and brand new I went 12.6 @113 but I was saying that the mach has alot of potential.
The cobra is a nice car but I think that for the money there are other options out there. Its all up to what you like.
The cast cranks that come in the automatic mach1 is very strong.(not as strong as the cobra crank I know).
If you think the stock mach1 motor will blow up with boost then you need to spend more time around them. I have seen them pistons hold up to 450 rwhp for a long time with no problems.Its all about the tune. if everybody would tune them for the street and not the dyno motors would last longer.
I know the Cobra is fast I had two of them and ran low 11s on Nittos "1.62 60 ft" and when it was dead stock and brand new I went 12.6 @113 but I was saying that the mach has alot of potential.
The cobra is a nice car but I think that for the money there are other options out there. Its all up to what you like.
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Ken, FYI, there are C6's out there already, that are running consistent 11.60's with just a tune, longtubes, and tires. I believe there's a example that's out of the Cartek stable. Correct me if I'm wrong.... WJ
I think when the Cartek C6 had tires and headers, it went 12.2 or close to it.
With heads/cam it went deep into the 11s. Once the tuning issues get sorta out, I'm sure it will go quite a bit faster....
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Originally Posted by Ken G
Bob,
If you can wait, I think the '05 will be something special. The only problem is it will probably come with a "special" price tag
. I'm sure dealers will be marking the first ones up, counting on those suckers who want to be "first on the block." It's a tough decision and I wish you luck.
-Ken
If you can wait, I think the '05 will be something special. The only problem is it will probably come with a "special" price tag
. I'm sure dealers will be marking the first ones up, counting on those suckers who want to be "first on the block." It's a tough decision and I wish you luck.-Ken
The '05s seem to run pretty well with minimal mods. I expect the '07 Cobra to be a killer. But they might be hard to get for a decent price....
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Kenny H The new automatics that come in the Machs are very strong with nothing more than a valve body and converter they will live in the 10s.
The cast cranks that come in the automatic mach1 is very strong.(not as strong as the cobra crank I know).
If you think the stock mach1 motor will blow up with boost then you need to spend more time around them. I have seen them pistons hold up to 450 rwhp for a long time with no problems.Its all about the tune. if everybody would tune them for the street and not the dyno motors would last longer.
I know the Cobra is fast I had two of them and ran low 11s on Nittos "1.62 60 ft" and when it was dead stock and brand new I went 12.6 @113 but I was saying that the mach has alot of potential.
The cobra is a nice car but I think that for the money there are other options out there. Its all up to what you like.
The cast cranks that come in the automatic mach1 is very strong.(not as strong as the cobra crank I know).
If you think the stock mach1 motor will blow up with boost then you need to spend more time around them. I have seen them pistons hold up to 450 rwhp for a long time with no problems.Its all about the tune. if everybody would tune them for the street and not the dyno motors would last longer.
I know the Cobra is fast I had two of them and ran low 11s on Nittos "1.62 60 ft" and when it was dead stock and brand new I went 12.6 @113 but I was saying that the mach has alot of potential.
The cobra is a nice car but I think that for the money there are other options out there. Its all up to what you like.
As far as boost, time will tell. My point is that if one wants to run 120 MPH the Cobra will be more reliable doing so.
I don't doubt that much of the problems are due to tunes....
Originally Posted by Ken G
Bob,
If you can wait, I think the '05 will be something special. The only problem is it will probably come with a "special" price tag . I'm sure dealers will be marking the first ones up, counting on those suckers who want to be "first on the block." It's a tough decision and I wish you luck.
-Ken
If you can wait, I think the '05 will be something special. The only problem is it will probably come with a "special" price tag
. I'm sure dealers will be marking the first ones up, counting on those suckers who want to be "first on the block." It's a tough decision and I wish you luck.-Ken
Originally Posted by Kenny H
I think when the Cartek C6 had tires and headers, it went 12.2 or close to it.
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Buy A GM PRODUCT!!!!! FORD SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like all domestic nameplates and I LOVE America.
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I'm sorry, but GM don't have **** to show for cars.. oh, wait- the Cobalt SS! 
Maybe the Impala SS.. Monte Carlo SS
Maybe the Impala SS..
Monte Carlo SS A 6 speed LS2 GTO could be quite a sweet ride though.
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
I agree. The LS2 GTO's will be whacking out high 11's with very little work. They'll be calling them: "The Judge" again.... 
WJ
WJA local guy took his '05 to a track in NC over the weekend. I'm not sure what track, and the weather was mediocre. He ran some 1/8ths, the best was in the 8.6 range I think. Thats no quicker then what our car ran BUT he did it on a 2.1-2.2 short time. Also, his MPH was 84, ours was only 82 I think. I think this shows the '05 A4s will be in the 105+ range, and atleast 13.2 in decent weather, probably quicker....
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I think with headers only on DRs it may have dipped into the high 11s...it went as quick as 11.53@118 with headers/exhaust, gears, tires and a torque management module through the cats at full weight.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
I think when the Cartek C6 had tires and headers, it went 12.2 or close to it.
With heads/cam it went deep into the 11s. Once the tuning issues get sorta out, I'm sure it will go quite a bit faster....
With heads/cam it went deep into the 11s. Once the tuning issues get sorta out, I'm sure it will go quite a bit faster....
Originally Posted by Kenny H
A local guy took his '05 to a track in NC over the weekend. I'm not sure what track, and the weather was mediocre. He ran some 1/8ths, the best was in the 8.6 range I think. Thats no quicker then what our car ran BUT he did it on a 2.1-2.2 short time. Also, his MPH was 84, ours was only 82 I think. I think this shows the '05 A4s will be in the 105+ range, and atleast 13.2 in decent weather, probably quicker....
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
I agree. The LS2 GTO's will be whacking out high 11's with very little work. Tthey'll be calling them: "The Judge" again.... WJ
WJ
Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Raceweight is 3550. It runs low 12.30's all day long in 60 degree weather and below. So, I say, you take a '05 Goat A4 and do these same few mods, and you'll be 11.8's or better.
Originally Posted by Kenny H
whats the price tag on a C6? Are places coming down yet? Thats awefully quick.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Yes, a few rebates hitting now and some dealerships are getting less greedy with them, mid 40s for a well optioned C6 coupe isn't unheard of right now.
Thats pretty reasonable....
The C5s are still great looking rides, the '97s will be almost 10 model years old and still look very good IMO. Hopefully the C6 ages as well....
I dont get it. Everybody is saying that the ls2 is so strong but how come all these vettes are not running the numbers?
If you take an 02 to 04 Z06 and run it with a good driver it will run in the high 11s/low 12s.
All the ls2 vettes that I have seen have only run mid 12s at best.
I dont get it.
Think of this. My 01 ws6 ran 110 mph when it was new and dead stock. Now you factor in the weight difference between my t/a and the c6 and it dont look like its making that much more power.
this is not a flame but I just dont see the big numbers that I was expecting. I would think that 400 hp @ 3250 pounds should be running in the 117 to 119 range.
If you take an 02 to 04 Z06 and run it with a good driver it will run in the high 11s/low 12s.
All the ls2 vettes that I have seen have only run mid 12s at best.
I dont get it.
Think of this. My 01 ws6 ran 110 mph when it was new and dead stock. Now you factor in the weight difference between my t/a and the c6 and it dont look like its making that much more power.
this is not a flame but I just dont see the big numbers that I was expecting. I would think that 400 hp @ 3250 pounds should be running in the 117 to 119 range.
Your not really upgrading going from an 02 to a 04 Stang.They are pretty much the same The motor's are fairly weak.Take the 04,add a supercharger and you get 360-380rwhp When you hit 400+rwhp the pistons go fairly quickly,nevermind the clutches that feel like crap when you go with aftermarket one's.I drive alot of Stangs at our shop and none of them really impressed me.
The motor's are fairly weak.Take the 04,add a supercharger and you get 360-380rwhp When you hit 400+rwhp the pistons go fairly quickly,nevermind the clutches that feel like crap when you go with aftermarket one's.I drive alot of Stangs at our shop and none of them really impressed me.