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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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2007 SVT Cobra to be unvieled at the Detroit Auto Show starting March 25

SVT Still Kicking, Ford Says

"With no cars currently on the market, there’ve been plenty of rumors working their way through the industry grapevine about the future of Ford Motor Co.’s high-performance SVT unit. But “reports of its demise have been greatly exaggerated,” the head of the brand-within-a-brand told TheCarConnection.com, lifting a turn-of-phrase from Mark Twain. “We’d hate to give up on the brand equity we’ve established over the last 10 years,” insisted Hau Thai-Tang, the new boss of SVT, who until recently led the development of the new, retro-styled Mustang. An SVT version of the Mustang will be unveiled at the upcoming New York Auto Show, said Thai-Tang, and though he wouldn’t confirm production plans, sources told TCC it’s a bit more than a year away. Several other possible SVT models are under consideration, with an emphasis on adding a more mainstream product, such as a high-performance Fusion sedan.


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- 465HP, 6-speed manual running in the low 12's with a trap speed of 120mph!

- You choose the rear suspension set up, either IRS or Solid Rear Axle with the IRS apparently pulling over 1.0g in the corners...

- The Price... in and around 30k

Motor: 5.4 Supercharged, 3 valve heads (with HUGE valves), forged internals similar to the 4.6 (Crank, rods, etc), modestly rated (under rated actually) ~465 HP/495 lb ft Torque, using a twin screw S/C similar to that on the Ford GT but pullied differently, hence the lower HP. This motor was supposedly made official (in house only) just in the last few days.

Transmissions: 6 speed manuals standard with a heavy duty 5 speed auto (the tranny used on the Ford Superduty but programmed/geared differently) as an option in late '07 or the '08 M/Y

Suspensions: A re-engineered, heavy duty IRS will be an option with a modified 3 link/panhard bar-live axle setup as the standard rear axle. SVT will be going for the Road Race buyer as well as the straight line racer with both axles optional. However, the Axle options are not set in stone as of the moment but look highly likely to be approved. The Cobra will be lowered about 1.5" from a stock GT.

Bodywork: The retro theme will continue with a serious nod to the '67 Shelby. The fenders may be flared more than the standard '05 but that is not for certain as of now. The ducktail will be factory installed. Also, no convertible is planned for now but no reason was given other than concerns over chassis reliability due to the torque volume.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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30k seems as if its going to be to cheap,its ugly as sin too but if its that fast,ill take it
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Ummm that thing is slower then the ls7 and about the same as a 5 year older zo6 and the z will still hand it it's *** on a road course.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Ummm that thing is slower then the ls7 and about the same as a 5 year older zo6 and the z will still hand it it's *** on a road course.
I bet you will see 10 Cobra's for every LS7 Vette that you will see on the street, due to the affordability factor.

Asian or not, this guy has the right idea..
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by squirrel masta
30k seems as if its going to be to cheap,its ugly as sin too but if its that fast,ill take it
I'll have actual pic's on Friday from the Javits Center...
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If you want to be a Ford fan boi go to a Ford site Ford is behind on the times chevy has been putting out better performing cars for 15 years now.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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If you want to be a Ford fan boi go to a Ford site Ford is behind on the times chevy has been putting out better performing cars for 15 years now.
I read the Ford sites too, but I hate to break it to you- what will beat this car?

Monte Carlo? NO

Impala SS? NO

Cobalt SS? NO

Camaro SS? RIP

Firebird WS6 RIP

GTO? NO

Yup.. if you want GM Performance, then you only have the Vette.. and that's simply beyond the realm of youngsters today.
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I like how your comparing the premier car to anything but our premier car lol and imo if you want to do there special vehicle teams car then do our special cars Zo6 lingenfelter .......
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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I like how your comparing the premier car to anything but our premier car lol and imo if you want to do there special vehicle teams car then do our special cars Zo6 lingenfelter .......
Yeah- you're right.. everything other than GM is



Deny it until it blows your doors off..
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I didn't say it was crap I proved my point and your throwing an old man tantrum wah wah you got beat now go **** off soem ford sponsors if you want to be a dick.
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as for blowing my doors off I am not worried I drive better then you and just like the 03 cobra few and far between will drive them to potential
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Bob...lol

You're out of your tree if you think that car will be $30k new. We'll see when it comes out.
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Bob...lol

You're out of your tree if you think that car will be $30k new. We'll see when it comes out.
btw i do like the car but it's not going to be that cheap. No way in hell..It'll be up there with the vette price range wise.
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as for blowing my doors off I am not worried I drive better then you and just like the 03 cobra few and far between will drive them to potential...
I didn't say it was crap I proved my point and your throwing an old man tantrum wah wah you got beat now go **** off soem ford sponsors if you want to be a dick...
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Bob...lol

You're out of your tree if you think that car will be $30k new. We'll see when it comes out.
I would imagine 32-34k, loaded.
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I would imagine 32-34k, loaded.

i hope it is..that would be a great bang for your buck for a new car. I just won't believe it till i see it though. I'm sure you remember what the dealers did with the 03's when they first came out. You were lucky to touch one for under $38-$40k.
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Lol yes I am the *** clown that is why your car is done and your well known on this board right.... to think I felt bad for you at first. hahahahahah
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Personally, I kind of like the looks - it fixes most of my objections to the GT. Performance should also be good as long as you get the M6, and not the Ford tranny. I still prefer the Vette, and if pricing is anything like it has historically been, they will be very similar in base price.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideSS
i hope it is..that would be a great bang for your buck for a new car. I just won't believe it till i see it though. I'm sure you remember what the dealers did with the 03's when they first came out. You were lucky to touch one for under $38-$40k.
The actions of grubby salespeople can ruin a good car.. shame.
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Originally Posted by Mr. B
Motor: 5.4 Supercharged, 3 valve heads (with HUGE valves), forged internals similar to the 4.6 (Crank, rods, etc), modestly rated (under rated actually) ~465 HP/495 lb ft Torque, using a twin screw S/C similar to that on the Ford GT but pullied differently, hence the lower HP.

So basically, once again, the Cobra will have some outrageous gains from just a pulley swap
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