Then to stick up for the cops like they're in the right...come on man.

I've met some very nice staties but it's been far and few. We need more of them and less of the majority.

 

dude i understand that, i told griff what i thought way in the beggin of this thread what i think would happen, and i dont agree or disagree with how the trooper handled him self, thats how staties are. but talking the way you guys were talking doesnt make you look any better then them

 

Ok so was going a little quicker...the cop lied about certian **** and Griff will get tagged no matter what so he gets fucked there, the cop is swearing at him so he gets fucked there, the judge sterotypes every young guy and ***** them there, he pays fines and lawyers fee's and gets fucked there.

All that **** running through your head and a cop yelling at you? Come on man, you tell me your gonna sit there and take it like flowers are growing outta your ***? We're only human and if 5 seconds of giving the cop some verbal abuse will give you some satisfaction then screw it, your gonna get screwed anyhow.

 

john i know its shitty that they will let me go for doing the same thing that you or someone else gets stoped for, i know exactly how big of dicks they can be, i had a rookie flip out and start making up ****** laws and tell me "ooo ya your fucked this ticket is gonna ruin your insurance hope you can afford it, its gonna be lke 800$" which like in griffs case would have been 90% bullshit. but i also wont sit here and say all cops are ******** blablabla. cops right the bullshit to discourage the original offence, cause either way the cop wins, even if griff gets all that **** droped, he still has to go to court, and pay for a lawer, its all a big scam.

 

like i said i had a cop sit there and make up laws to my face, and me being 18 wanted to say to this kid(who was about a year older then me) listen *******, i know your full of **** so go run your BS games on someone else, but like my father says, the most fucked up part is no matter what the side of the road is the worng place to fight with the police, cause out there they win no matter what. which is wrong but true.

 

You just proved everything anyone has typed in this thread but said we acted like dicks

 

My parent’s best friend is a Police Sergeant and he is awesome. I have also met Steve’s dad, and he is cool. However, the majority of cops I am familiar with are dicks. Either way, things are getting misconstrued here. Most of these guys I have met in person and they are cool. Erveryone relax, that trooper deserved a swift kick in the nuts though!

 

i agree, and my first comment seemed like i was pissed but i really wasnt, guess i should have reread it before i posted, o well. john i said posting how all cops are ******* makes you look like just as much of an *** as them, i never once said all cops are good and fair, cause they are fair fair from that lol. but i also wont get all worked up and sterotype all of them for being ***'s.

 

Professional curtesy is when people treat each other professionally. I understand that police officers don't know what they face with each stop or call they report to and I understand that they definately deal with a lot of idiots, liars, ********, ect. When a kid or a young guy get's pulled over for doing something stupid, and the officer cops a "hollier" than thou attitude (as like what is described here) then I have a problem with that. We ALL do dumb things (and don't tell me officer's haven't ever done stupid things before) and when we own up to the dumb things we did, it shouldn't make for **** like this. The fact is that the officer didn't act professionally when he got control of the situation. The fact is that he used his power to verbaly assult another human being, and if Griff were to have done that back, he would probably not be typing to us right now, but rather sitting and waiting for a bail hearing. Obviously, once the stop was made, and the possibility for the officer's safety was accessed and deemed to be of minimal danger, the officer should have had a cooler head. This shows that his training did not take over, unless he was acting, to allow for a cool situation.

Let's play a what-if scenario for a minute. Same stop happens, but cop pulls over an unknown drug dealer, but said perp doesn't have anything in the car and the only laws he's breaking @ this time are the ones that Griff was cited for, plus one that the officer does not know about, an illegally concealed weapon. Let's say the dealer plays it cool for a while, but he's a bit of a hot head too, and he knows the cop doesn't know he's packin'. Cop keeps running at the mouth and pushes the dealer's buttons. We possibly end up with a shootout right? Well, I know that could take one dealer off the street if we get into a shootout, but it could also put one cop in a flag drapped coffin, along with innocent bystanders, just because the officer didn't keep his cool. Which is better? I'll let yall be the judge.

I'm sure that you and Humvee can attest to the fact that the best officers and military men don't loose their cool, unless the situation is already in "breach" mode, at which point, all hell is breaking loose, and they are trying to resolve the situation by force as quickly as possible.

That's just how I see it. Treat people with respect, and most will treat you with respect back. MOST.

 

jist a bit! lol

 

we all do dumb things, i have done dumb things,cops have all done dumb things, everyone has, as far as the what if, 99% of drug dealers that were "packing" would be giving off more then enough warning signs for the officer to pull them out of the car, the cop was being a dick to griff, yes, griff handled himself very well, yes, griff will more then likely get all the charges droped besides the ones the offense's he commeted, yes. but next time the bikers on the side of griff, he will think long and hard about playing again, because of this, which is what the police want.

 

Some criminals are actually smart...believe that or not.

Hey, two tickets in less than six months, I learned I needed to slow down, and I wasn't even racing or anything, just drivin' along.

 

there are some smart ones, just not to many, and after being stoped for speeding i have slowed down alot, i would be screwed if i got a ticket.

 

Or the cop screwed Griff the court did also then he can be like me and say **** it if I am getting screwed it might as well be worth it now I take off and put more poeple at risk cause the cops screwed me over hardcore when i did nothing wrong.

 

Jon your my damn mind reader, quit creeping me out!

 

Not ONE person here said every single cop is a dick.

Quit shooting yourself in the foot man.

 

plan on it, just one of them days

 

most off the time it is the young cops that arevery hard on people to try to make a name for themselves, when i got arested at the drags last year at the camaro firebird shoot out i had a young cop who was i dick he could of let me off but he wanted to use his power. i mean check this out i was at the track riding a little honda dirt bike 50cc with noyzee on a four wheeler and we saw an opening in the woods we went in about 20 feet and it was all mud we turn around come out and there is the cop saying that that was private property and we were not sopposed to be in there okay not a promblem being nice, i need to see your leisence. while i didn't know but mine was suspended. and u don't need it to drive a 50cc dirt bike they are conserded mopeds but any way yup u geussed they took me to jail right there on the spot fingerprinted photograghped and the whole nine yards and brad had to bail me out gregg had top drive my car home for me and i got kicked out of the track for the year all because of riding a dirt bike at the track were i see like 10 year olds driving them

 

dude that sucks, and while he didnt need to ask you for your lisence, once he did and saw it was suspended it puts him between a rock and a hard place, but most of the time the younger cops are tougher then the older ones and tend to be the ********

 

ya i mean i fought it and and it coast me loads of money and then i they kept adding charghes oin to it so i had to pay to get a lawyer and my lawyler told me i should have called him firtst because they aressted me on private property, and they owner of the land would have had to press charges and he didn't even know. plus the cop was on a four wheeler when he aressted me and he put me on the back of it and drove me to his cop car were only one person is allowed on a atv and it is writing on the tags on the atv so the cop broke the law right there. i eneded up paying a little over 2200 bucks, but if i had callled the lawyer it would have been cheaper because the last time up at court i had the lawyer with me and they dissmissed what was left on the charges. and the new hampshire courts are so weird!!!!! i was in court and the person in front of me was 17 got areested for dui and had drugs on him and he got 10 comunity service what is that , in mass he would have huge fines and no more driving