New winter project..... on a quest for 9's!
10-14-2005, 10:22 AM
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New winter project..... on a quest for 9's! Ok, so after spending last friday at the track with Noyzee and b-man and watching thier cars run... I was hooked... I want to go that fast! I want a single digit time slip! So I started looking at what it was going to cost me.... 
But then I came up with an idea.... you may have seen my uncles car on here I had for sale... It's a forged 383, lingenfelter heads and at 5lbs of boost it went 10.6 at 133 on nitto's.. So I was thinking, it did that at a race weight of close to 4000lbs and suspension that is set up for road racing... SO here's my new project, I'm buying it from him. this winter I'm going to put it on a crash diet, anything it doesn't need to go fast is getting torn out, then I'm going to buy a set of slicks and skinnies and in the spring, I'm going racing 
After that is done, there will still be alot of work needed, new gears, suspension, and then I'll see what I can do about getting more power out of it... I'm new to this so I'm going to have lots and lots of questions 
But then I came up with an idea.... you may have seen my uncles car on here I had for sale... It's a forged 383, lingenfelter heads and at 5lbs of boost it went 10.6 at 133 on nitto's.. So I was thinking, it did that at a race weight of close to 4000lbs and suspension that is set up for road racing... SO here's my new project, I'm buying it from him. this winter I'm going to put it on a crash diet, anything it doesn't need to go fast is getting torn out, then I'm going to buy a set of slicks and skinnies and in the spring, I'm going racing After that is done, there will still be alot of work needed, new gears, suspension, and then I'll see what I can do about getting more power out of it... I'm new to this so I'm going to have lots and lots of questions 
10-14-2005, 10:56 AM
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DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
dont rip that car up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
myself and ESP can help you build a 9 second car for less money, and you wont have to rip up a perfect car!!!!
dont, i repeat, dont do it!!
go to e-bay, find a 98-99 hardtop 6 banger camaro/ta for 2-3 k
then we will talk about what next.
an all out racecar will be easy to do.
and we can do it for pretty short $$$$
get the car and we can meet up and make a list of stuff and what it will cost.
i bet you could get out of it for almost what your uncles car will cost to buy
dont rip that car up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
myself and ESP can help you build a 9 second car for less money, and you wont have to rip up a perfect car!!!!
dont, i repeat, dont do it!!
go to e-bay, find a 98-99 hardtop 6 banger camaro/ta for 2-3 k
then we will talk about what next.
an all out racecar will be easy to do.
and we can do it for pretty short $$$$
get the car and we can meet up and make a list of stuff and what it will cost.
i bet you could get out of it for almost what your uncles car will cost to buy
10-14-2005, 11:19 AM
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Haha, that was my only hang up was tearing up that car... it's perfect... and it's an Lt1, but I figured if I blew the motor through the hood it would be a good reason to upgrade...lol The reason I was thinking about doing it is, that car is already built... tranny, rear, cage, everything is there... but we'll see. I wanted to start fresh with a 98-99 Z-28, but my dad is trying to convince me to do it with this car.... I would really rather go with a nitrous car anyway... we'll talk about it, I'm not doing it today
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dont start with a z28, the initial cost will be to much. unless you can find one rolling, or with a blown motor.
that car is built wrong. its more street/roadrace. you will spend as much trying to get that car to go fast plus the huge tag on the car. save 20k off the top and get a 98.
trust me. if i could do it again, my car would be heads cam daily driver, and id have a beater that i turned race car.
that car is built wrong. its more street/roadrace. you will spend as much trying to get that car to go fast plus the huge tag on the car. save 20k off the top and get a 98.
trust me. if i could do it again, my car would be heads cam daily driver, and id have a beater that i turned race car.
10-14-2005, 12:44 PM
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Racing is fun indeed....
If I did it again I'd go LS2 402/AFR225/LSX/90/2800lb ALL MOTOR TA..Easy 9 Sec passes with that type of setup....Its $$$ to do a good chassis at 2800lbs but in the end u would have a wicked motor car...
Pete do it
If I did it again I'd go LS2 402/AFR225/LSX/90/2800lb ALL MOTOR TA..Easy 9 Sec passes with that type of setup....Its $$$ to do a good chassis at 2800lbs but in the end u would have a wicked motor car...
Pete do it
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I agree don't tear apart that LT1 car.. I would love to put a 402 in my car with the heads and intake I have now. Remove a few more pounds and run 9's .. Any idea how much a good 402 short block will cost ??
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Originally Posted by bspz28
I agree don't tear apart that LT1 car.. I would love to put a 402 in my car with the heads and intake I have now. Remove a few more pounds and run 9's .. Any idea how much a good 402 short block will cost ??
the block with all the covers is like $1,000 or so.
10-14-2005, 01:21 PM
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Argh, that LT1 is too nice to tear apart. I dont care for LT1's at all but I like that one car alot. If I was in the posistion I would buy that car and slowly just make it faster and faster yet keep it clean, neat and keep the miles off of it. That car is really nice. I'd even consider it if I didnt have my GTO.
Slowhawk just got a Z28 with I think 4,000 miles (may be wrong but very close) with no motor or tranny and it was dirt cheap considering what it cost's to buy a car you are going to tear apart. The interior is new, the paint is mint and there's no guilt tearing apart the car because it needs everything.
Dont mess that car up.
Slowhawk just got a Z28 with I think 4,000 miles (may be wrong but very close) with no motor or tranny and it was dirt cheap considering what it cost's to buy a car you are going to tear apart. The interior is new, the paint is mint and there's no guilt tearing apart the car because it needs everything.
Dont mess that car up.
10-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO
Argh, that LT1 is too nice to tear apart. I dont care for LT1's at all but I like that one car alot. If I was in the posistion I would buy that car and slowly just make it faster and faster yet keep it clean, neat and keep the miles off of it. That car is really nice. I'd even consider it if I didnt have my GTO.
Slowhawk just got a Z28 with I think 4,000 miles (may be wrong but very close) with no motor or tranny and it was dirt cheap considering what it cost's to buy a car you are going to tear apart. The interior is new, the paint is mint and there's no guilt tearing apart the car because it needs everything.
Dont mess that car up.
Slowhawk just got a Z28 with I think 4,000 miles (may be wrong but very close) with no motor or tranny and it was dirt cheap considering what it cost's to buy a car you are going to tear apart. The interior is new, the paint is mint and there's no guilt tearing apart the car because it needs everything.
Dont mess that car up.
An all motor car would be great... I have alot of thinking to do.. If you guys have any suggestions... throw them at me. Hmmm, firebird or camaro?
10-14-2005, 01:28 PM
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camaro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
suggestions! i have many!!!
how much $$$$ you got. lol
roller cam bearings, alum rods, drysump, lightweight crank. oh yhea, i can keep going.
suggestions! i have many!!!
how much $$$$ you got. lol
roller cam bearings, alum rods, drysump, lightweight crank. oh yhea, i can keep going.
10-14-2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
camaro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
suggestions! i have many!!!
how much $$$$ you got. lol
roller cam bearings, alum rods, drysump, lightweight crank. oh yhea, i can keep going.
suggestions! i have many!!!
how much $$$$ you got. lol
roller cam bearings, alum rods, drysump, lightweight crank. oh yhea, i can keep going.
Get a V6 car if you cant find anything with a motor, those things are usally alot cheaper.
10-14-2005, 01:36 PM
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Dont know what condition you want the body to be in, that can dictate alot.
Motor wise....the fast guys can correct me if they want but it seems like a nice forged stock cube engine, AFR heads, compression and juice is all you need. With an auto and different nitrous jets, the fun will never end.
Motor wise....the fast guys can correct me if they want but it seems like a nice forged stock cube engine, AFR heads, compression and juice is all you need. With an auto and different nitrous jets, the fun will never end.
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Originally Posted by bspz28
I agree don't tear apart that LT1 car.. I would love to put a 402 in my car with the heads and intake I have now. Remove a few more pounds and run 9's .. Any idea how much a good 402 short block will cost ??
Why not just buy my car turn key and run 9.5's all day long
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if you want as cheep as possable. go with a spray kit.
do a mild build like mine, and spray the ***** off of it!!!
my motor can be done pretty cheep.
figure on 2500 for heads, and you will need a good tranny, and a good rear. the rest is suspention and a cage.
im going to say $25k plus the car and you can go 9's all day and enjoy it with just basic matinence. oil changes, tranny fluid every once and a while, and plugs every 5 passes or so.
do a mild build like mine, and spray the ***** off of it!!!
my motor can be done pretty cheep.
figure on 2500 for heads, and you will need a good tranny, and a good rear. the rest is suspention and a cage.
im going to say $25k plus the car and you can go 9's all day and enjoy it with just basic matinence. oil changes, tranny fluid every once and a while, and plugs every 5 passes or so.