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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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We get to see some pretty freaky stuff. This kinda takes the cake.
We had the opportunity to tune this "creation" last summer. The builder is an engineer, with a background in foundry/casting.
Its a small block,383, upright, turned into an outboard!!
He cast the valve covers, as well as the housing that the back of the block bolts to. He made the shaft housing, the tilt/trim/jacking plate. Basically everything except the engine and the "foot".
It is a masterpiece of machine work. And one of the most enjoyable things I've ever tuned.
Thought everyone might enjoy seeing this......

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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I've seen small blocks used as boat engines but never before like that. That's a really cool setup Thanks for sharing.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Must have a killer oiling system...
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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THATS NUTTY!!!! Ive been boating for 21 years and never saw anything like that...is there anything that protects the tb from sucking in water?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6on19s
THATS NUTTY!!!! Ive been boating for 21 years and never saw anything like that...is there anything that protects the tb from sucking in water?
Yeah its got a cover. I'll post another picture in a while........
As far as the oiling system, the motors been together and running for some time. I believe it has a feed right to the top of the motor/front of the motor, so its not pushing the oil up.
This guy has spent YEARS developing this thing. There's not much he hasnt thought of and then conquered/overcame.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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I wonder how the oiling system works? Seems like you'd be bathing the crank at the bottom of the block, and starving the front mains. Cool as hell though.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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What about fueling, I'm guessing the front cylinders are lean and the rear are rich due to gravity.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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What about fueling, I'm guessing the front cylinders are lean and the rear are rich due to gravity.
It's fuel injected, so you have 8 injectors all injecting fuel essentially right at the back of each intake valve, so that won't be a problem in that orientation.

I would still like to see how their oil system works. I'd assume it'd have to be some sort of dry sump at the very least.
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i dont see it, but im guessing its some sort of dry pump oil sytem, with mybe oil injection into the heads and possably the block. maybe a rail inside the oil pan oiling the crank ect

pretty friggin cool tho!!!
id love to see more pics or a link
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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I take back my comment, I just saw the fuel injectors, so I guess it's not as much of an issue.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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thats gotta be awesome to play with!
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Effin crazy. Engineers are some wacky folk.
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I cant link to it. I'm not a sponsor so the mods would **** can the link to my site. I'll try to put up another picture or two. I've got one with the engine cover on it.
The oil system is wet sump. Thats right. The pan has a hook/bend in it at the bottom. There is a dedicated oil pressure circuit that goes to the top/front of the block. Hes done some stuff to keep the back/bottom cyl from being overwhelmed with oil. The engines been running for quite a few years so hes done something right.
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what kind of hull is that?
how fast is the boat?

sick
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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that's got to be an intresting ride! I hope that motor never ejects anything out the pan... it could be headed right at the driver/passengers...... that would always sit in the back of my mind in that boat, especially when the hammer's down on the thing.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
that's got to be an intresting ride! I hope that motor never ejects anything out the pan... it could be headed right at the driver/passengers...... that would always sit in the back of my mind in that boat, especially when the hammer's down on the thing.
he said it has a cover
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a cover so it wouldn't suck water in the intake.. nothing about a cover in case a rod fragged!

But, being that it was built by an engineer, it's probably got something to stop that should it ever happen.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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I'll try to address several posts at once.
The cover is just like any other outboard cover. Its there to protect the engine from the elements, not to protect people from the engine in case of failure.
If it throws a rod, its no worse than an outboard engine, with the exception that the rods are heavier. I'm not really worried about it as I'm sitting right in front of it, tune at 50 MPH.
The hull used to look completely different. The owner cut the hull in half length wise, narrowed it, did a bunch of transom work to it, and then redid the forward top half. What would be the top of the cabin if there was one.
Its not very fast, not really what it was built for. We are trying to get the speed up, but that is actually secondary to getting it to "work" right. If he wanted speed, he would have used a much better hull. The hull at this point is nothing more than something for the engine to push around. It almost time for him to get it out and we'll start playin with it again. Cant wait!!! It gets ALOT of attention at the boat ramp!!
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thats cool
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
I'll try to address several posts at once.
The cover is just like any other outboard cover. Its there to protect the engine from the elements, not to protect people from the engine in case of failure.
If it throws a rod, its no worse than an outboard engine, with the exception that the rods are heavier. I'm not really worried about it as I'm sitting right in front of it, tune at 50 MPH.
The hull used to look completely different. The owner cut the hull in half length wise, narrowed it, did a bunch of transom work to it, and then redid the forward top half. What would be the top of the cabin if there was one.
Its not very fast, not really what it was built for. We are trying to get the speed up, but that is actually secondary to getting it to "work" right. If he wanted speed, he would have used a much better hull. The hull at this point is nothing more than something for the engine to push around. It almost time for him to get it out and we'll start playin with it again. Cant wait!!! It gets ALOT of attention at the boat ramp!!

the boat must porpus alot with the weight that far back unless balist is added to the front or center., but it is deffinetly somthing to look at, i never seen anything like it.
pretty wild for sure.
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