Too bad they don't produce this weapon and too bad it wouldn't be legal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B03s

 

Wow I want one of those!! A robber would **** themselves if a female busted that thing out while taking a walk, also would make a great gun to hide in the house as a "just in case" firearm.

 

A little more info. for those that are curious!

http://www.defensereview.com/modules...print&sid=1098

That's s the kind of **** your grandma pulls out on a would be purse snatcher then calls you later and tells you, "I said make my day then he **** himself!"

 

Florida's Guidelines for concealed weapons: from the Florida state website:

Use of Deadly Force for Lawful Self-Defense

In receiving a license to carry a concealed weapon for lawful self-defense, you are undertaking a great responsibility. A license to carry a concealed weapon is not a license to use it. I am sure you share my hope that you will never find it necessary to use a weapon in self-defense. If you do, the law will protect you only if you have acted within the law. Those who are choosing to arm themselves with weapons should, therefore, be armed with the most indispensable weapon of all knowledge.
We are providing this information to you as a service in pursuit of that goal. Only you can provide the wisdom, restraint, and good judgment that the law demands of those who possess the ability to take another human life.
Charles H. Bronson
Commissioner
A License to Carry a Concealed Weapon is not a License to use it.


This information was prepared by the Division of Licensing in an attempt to answer some of the most frequently asked questions about the use of deadly force for lawful self-defense. Included are examples of real situations involving the legal consequences of the use of deadly force.
Q. What kinds of weapons are included in the concealed weapons law?
A. The Jack Hagler Self-defense Act defines concealed weapons or firearms as follows: handguns, electronic weapons or devices, tear gas guns, knives and billies. The information provided emphasizes handguns, because they are one of the most commonly used weapons for self-defense.
Q. What if I am in my vehicle?
A. A person has no duty to retreat in his lawfully occupied vehicle against a person who was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering or had unlawfully and forcefully entered an occupied vehicle or had unlawfully and forcefully removed or was attempting to remove another against that person's will from the occupied vehicle.
Q. When is a Handgun "Concealed?"
A. The Florida Legislature defines a concealed firearm as any firearm “carried on or about a person in such a manner as to conceal it from the ordinary sight of another person.” A person carrying a concealed firearm without a license is guilty of a felony of the third degree. The penalty for this offense is a prison term of up to five years.
Q. Are there special laws that apply to the use of Handguns?
A. Yes, special laws apply anytime anyone uses deadly force, whether or not the weapon is concealed. Florida law defines deadly force as force that is likely to cause death or great bodily harm. When you carry a handgun, you possess a weapon of deadly force. The law considers even an unloaded gun to be a deadly weapon when it is pointed at someone.
Q. When can I use my handgun to protect myself?
A. Florida law justifies use of deadly force when you are:

• Trying to protect yourself or another person from death or serious bodily harm;
• Trying to prevent a forcible felony, such as rape, robbery, burglary or kidnapping.

Using or displaying a handgun in any other circumstances could result in your conviction for crimes such as improper exhibition of a firearm, manslaughter, or worse.
Example of the kind of attack that will not justify defending yourself with deadly force: Two neighbors got into a fight, and one of them tried to hit the other by swinging a garden hose. The neighbor who was being attacked with the hose shot the other in the chest. The court upheld his conviction for aggravated battery with a firearm, because an attack with a garden hose is not the kind of violent assault that justifies responding with deadly force.
Q. What if someone uses threatening language to me so that I am afraid for my life or safety?
A. Verbal threats are not enough to justify the use of deadly force. There must be an overt act by the person which indicates that he immediately intends to carry out the threat. The person threatened must reasonably believe that he will be killed or suffer serious bodily harm if he does not immediately take the life of his adversary.
Q. What if someone is attacking me in my own home?
A. The courts have created an exception to the duty to retreat called the “castle doctrine.” Under the castle doctrine, you need not retreat from your own home to avoid using deadly force against an assailant. The castle doctrine applies if you are attacked in your own home by an intruder or an invited guest.
Q. What if I am in my place of business and someone comes in to rob me? Do I have to retreat before using deadly force?
A. The castle doctrine also applies when you are in your place of business. If you are in danger of death or great bodily harm or you are trying to prevent a forcible felony, you do not have to retreat before using deadly force in self-defense.
Q. What if I point my handgun at someone but don't use it?
A. Never display a handgun to gain "leverage" in an argument. Threatening someone verbally while possessing a handgun, even licensed, will land you in jail for three years. Even if the gun is broken or you don't have bullets, you will receive the mandatory three-year sentence if convicted. The law does not allow any possibility of getting out of jail early.
Example: In a 1987 case, a woman refused to pay an automobile mechanic who she thought did a poor job repairing her car. They argued about it, and the mechanic removed the radiator hose from the car so she couldn't drive it away. She reached into her purse, pulled out an unloaded gun, and threatened to kill the mechanic if he touched her car again. The mechanic grabbed the gun and called the police.
The woman was convicted of aggravated assault with a firearm and sentenced to serve a mandatory three-year prison term. The fact that the gun was not loaded was irrelevant. Even though she was the mother of three dependent children and had no prior criminal record, the statute does not allow for parole. Her only recourse was to seek clemency from the Governor.
Q. When can I use deadly force in the defense of another person?
A. If you see someone who is being attacked, you can use deadly force to defend him/her if the circumstances would justify that person's use of deadly force in his/her own defense. In other words, you "stand in the shoes" of the person being attacked.
Q. What if I see a crime being committed?
A. A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman. But, as stated earlier, deadly force is justified if you are trying to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. The use of deadly force must be absolutely necessary to prevent the crime. Also, if the criminal runs away, you cannot use deadly force to stop him, because you would no longer be "preventing" a crime. If use of deadly force is not necessary, or you use deadly force after the crime has stopped, you could be convicted of manslaughter.
Q. If I get a license to carry a concealed weapon, can I carry it anywhere?
A. No. To get a license you must sign an oath that you have read and understand the Jack Hagler Self-defense Act (Section 790.06, Florida Statutes). That statute lists several places where you may not carry a concealed weapon. You should read subsection 12 for a complete list, but some examples are football, baseball, and basketball games (college or professional) and bars.
A cool head and even temper can keep handgun carriers out of trouble. You should never carry a gun into a situation where you might get angry.
1. Never display a handgun to gain "leverage" in an argument, even if it isn't loaded or you never intend to use it.
2. The amount of force that you use to defend yourself must not be excessive under the circumstances.

• Never use deadly force in self-defense unless you are afraid that if you don't, you will be killed or seriously injured;
• Verbal threats never justify your use of deadly force;
• If you think someone has a weapon and will use it unless you kill him, be sure you are right and are not overreacting to the situation.

3. The law permits you to carry a concealed weapon for self-defense. Carrying a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman or a "good samaritan."
4. Never carry your concealed weapon into any place where the statute prohibits carrying it.
This is not a complete summary of all the statutes and court opinions on the use of deadly force. Because the concealed weapons statute specifies that concealed weapons are to be used for lawful self-defense, we have not attempted to summarize the body of law on lawful defense of property. This information is not intended as legal advice. Every self-defense case has its own unique set of facts, and it is unwise to try to predict how a particular case would be decided. It is clear, however, that the law protects people who keep their tempers under control and use deadly force only as a last resort.

 

That's some info for ya ***! Great info for the newbie like myself!

 

if you go to a florida suncoast gunshow and take the course you get alot of helpful and printed info. the teacher is very knowledgeable and gives multiple examples of when and when not to use your weapon.

 

I found out if you're current active duty military, have ever been hinorably discharged, or are retired military ... that certifies you and there is no requirement to pay the $60-$75 to take the course.

Just bought my North American Arms .32 ACP today and what a sweet carry weapon it is. Smallest, most powerful knockdown/kill weapon I could find.

 

You can also skip the CCW class if you've taken a hunter's safety course, and have a certificate to prove it.

Congrats on the purchase!

 

I use a Glock 17 9mm with Hollow points. Can hold 17+1 and I'm going to use it as my carry weapon when I start my job in law enforcement. More than enough knock down power and you can get one used for under 400. Closed so no rust from the florida enviroment.

 

You mean soldiers know what to do with guns?

Common sense in the government?

I'll be damned.

 

AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!

 

good deal at bass pro shop. if you sign up for a BPS credit card you get 10% off your first purchase (well at the ft. myers one anyways)

so buy a nice new gun, some ammo, targets, holster and a giftcard and save 10% up to 1500.00 then just pay it off when the bill comes in

 

LOL!

1. After 21 years of live fire and qualification ranges, multiple combat tours, and being raised in a VFW where my grandaddy tended bat for 45 years, it just sorta' comes natural.

2. Everybody eventually gets SOMETHING right.

3. Probabay will be ... j/k ... enjoy your posts a lot.

 

Where can I find this book at, would it be in Books A Million or Barnes & Nobel?I have a Glock .40 that I keep next to my bed at night and locked up in a safe during the day since I'm 18.

Question- since I'm 18 and live with my parents, I was wondering if (God forbid) someone were to break into my house and I kill them, would I face any charges? Ofcourse knowing my dad since his prints are on the gun he'd probably say he shot the person, and well- dead men tell no tales.

 

FirebirdPhil- No. You have to be 21 to purchase a pistol in Florida, but 18 to own/posses.

 

Ah ok. One more question- do you still have to be 21 to get a Concealed Weapons Permit?

 

yes you have to be 21. you can take the class when you are 20, but you can not mail it out until you are 21.

 

^^--- What he said.

 

Kahr PM-40

 

Old thread, but I picked up a Kahr PM9 yesterday. I find my Glock 26 to be too bulky for this hotter weather.