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Old 10-24-2008, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HUNTER02SS
Sorry, that is not the way it work's. I can go as fast as I want with this new setup, especially since I am cutting the weight another 300lbs. or so!
Hunter the problem with that premise....You can't ever go as fast as you want.....you can only go as fast as your bowels will let ya go!
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no more W2W what happened with that
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What about the ERL 6 bolt LS2 blocks?
Old 10-24-2008, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tomz28
no more W2W what happened with that
Nothing happened. Just looking at all my options this time. Trying to save weight and trying to weigh out the cost of each of my options.

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What about the ERL 6 bolt LS2 blocks?
$4500.00 for the block alone!
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Originally Posted by Mr.427
Hunter the problem with that premise....You can't ever go as fast as you want.....you can only go as fast as your bowels will let ya go!
If that's the case, you are better off to keep your old setup! LOL!
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Billy Briggs the engine builder for wheel2wheel went into business for himself building motors.
Old 10-24-2008, 07:59 PM
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I wouldn't weld on the heads with out sending the out to be rehardened. Noyzee had a problem a while ago with his AFR heads cracking. He kept getting them rewelded, but the same thing kept happening. He sent them to Tony Mamo and he mentioned the whole idea about rehardening the heads after having them welded on.

Not to mention I don't think it's going to really work. You have to think about equal and opposite forces. If you are pulling down on one side of the head you are effectively pushing upwards on the other side. Granted there's a few head bolts in the way.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
I wouldn't weld on the heads with out sending the out to be rehardened. Noyzee had a problem a while ago with his AFR heads cracking. He kept getting them rewelded, but the same thing kept happening. He sent them to Tony Mamo and he mentioned the whole idea about rehardening the heads after having them welded on.

Not to mention I don't think it's going to really work. You have to think about equal and opposite forces. If you are pulling down on one side of the head you are effectively pushing upwards on the other side. Granted there's a few head bolts in the way.
I agree with the 1st part of your statement. The last statement would go for the 6bolt head design as well. The only difference is I will not have the extra studs on the top side. As far as the welds cracking, well what do racer's do with there alum. head's when they have repaired for damage????
With the proper welding done then I don't think it will be a proplem. Engine builders have done this on BB Chevy's for year's for this same type problem.
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If you have the money, you would be crazy NOT to go with the LSX block. There are options out there for heads to match. You'll have the best of both world. I have seen them well under $2K.

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Old 10-25-2008, 10:12 AM
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If you are taking that much weight off of the car then just do the LSX, why fart around with welding and creating more problems with a block you know cant take the power you want to make.

Not to mention the LSX has better oiling as well.
Old 10-25-2008, 08:23 PM
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Weber racing does the welding for adding 2 bolts to the alum blocks
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ive seen some cylinder walls cracking on even the LSX block. making apprx. 1100rwhp(nitrous). tuneup what perfect. pistons were fine just two cracked walls. plus the LSX block weighs 10000000lbs. i plan on buying the warhawk block next
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What about the warhawk block? Is that an option? Anybody have experience with it pro/cons?
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I have heard that the Warhawk block for the money has alot of problems.
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The Warhawk block is badass but you 4500 is just for block. You have to buy there valley cover, front and rear cover from them also. 4500 turns into 5500 in a hurry and you haven't even done any machine work yet.
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I guess I'm asking for Chris (Hunter) because he's the one looking at the aluminum block stuff. I am just wondering if there is legitimately problems with it or its just internet hearsay.
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Originally Posted by Frank02L
I guess I'm asking for Chris (Hunter) because he's the one looking at the aluminum block stuff. I am just wondering if there is legitimately problems with it or its just internet hearsay.
There are a few builders that chime in on this thread about extra work needed when using a Warhawk

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=warhawk

I found this with a quick search

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....3&postcount=14

It just seems that for the price being charged for a Warhawk block it would be a little more "finished". It might be worth it to the right person though.

Larry
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I just got back in town. However, My car is going to be strictly a race car from now on, so with that said, I am going to be filling the block with "Hard Block" block fill and fill it completly. This will add all the extra strenght in the cylinder wall area I should need. As far as cooling the head's we will be adding a water pump just for the head cooling.This is done on some NMCA car's and work's very well. I will also be adding a oil cooler. Some will say how much weight will that add, not much considering its usually full of water anyhow. Now with the hard block fill in the engine to keep the cylinder wall's from distorting, my billet main caps, main cap brace, and the extra bolt tabs welded on the motor, I will be able to go as fast as I need to go, and the block sould be as strong as a LSX Block, without the weight! What do you guy's think?
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Originally Posted by kp
If you are taking that much weight off of the car then just do the LSX, why fart around with welding and creating more problems with a block you know cant take the power you want to make.

Not to mention the LSX has better oiling as well.
I agree, but I don't want to go thru the trouble of taking the weight off the car just to add it back on with a iron block.
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Originally Posted by Frank02L
I guess I'm asking for Chris (Hunter) because he's the one looking at the aluminum block stuff. I am just wondering if there is legitimately problems with it or its just internet hearsay.
I am not exactly sure what the problems are with the Warhawk block, but I do know that there are some that exist with it. The LS2 block is a production GM block that if I can make a few additions to it to make it stronger and more reliable for racing, I would rather spend a extra 1000.00 on it rather that the 4500.00 on other block's! Look at it this way, ERL takes a production LS2 aluminum block and add's thicker sleeve's and a few other thing's to it to make it stronger and they even add the extra bolt hole's to convert it to a 6 bolt setup. it's working for them and they get 4500.00 for there block as well.


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