A2W on street car?
No you're missing the point. There isn't a disadvantage to running a properly setup A2W system on the street. You said it couldn't be done and there are plenty of cars here that doing it on a regular basis with as much or more heat and humidity than you run in MN.
Did you run a heat exchanger with your A2W setup?
Rick
Did you run a heat exchanger with your A2W setup?
Rick
You get what you pay for.....better street performance....what are you putting down at the tire hp wise? I paid $1200 buck fro my old spearco ATW intercooler...and you dont have compairable bucks into your ATW ???? Also your turbo kit is a lot smaller then mine so you would have to upgrade to bigger stuff to keep up.......Which cost more!
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You get what you pay for.....better street performance....what are you putting down at the tire hp wise? I paid $1200 buck fro my old spearco ATW intercooler...and you dont have compairable bucks into your ATW ???? Also your turbo kit is a lot smaller then mine so you would have to upgrade to bigger stuff to keep up.......Which cost more!
We've given some real world ETs, mph and weight numbers for what a little PT900 can do for some T4 turbos.
What's your T6 Turbo, ET and MPH so that guys can put it in perspective as to why you would need to fill up that much space for an IC that is that big? Sounds like its must be a mid 8s street car that's pushing 165mph on C16?
Rick
Nope, the PT900 and the kit were included in the kit and total cost for all of it was probably what your spearco was when I bought kit number 3 years ago.
We've given some real world ETs, mph and weight numbers for what a little PT900 can do for some T4 turbos.
What's your T6 Turbo, ET and MPH so that guys can put it in perspective as to why you would need to fill up that much space for an IC that is that big? Sounds like its must be a mid 8s street car that's pushing 165mph on C16?
Rick
We've given some real world ETs, mph and weight numbers for what a little PT900 can do for some T4 turbos.
What's your T6 Turbo, ET and MPH so that guys can put it in perspective as to why you would need to fill up that much space for an IC that is that big? Sounds like its must be a mid 8s street car that's pushing 165mph on C16?
Rick
Btw..you can never go over kill on an intercooler.
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Ok, it's clearly winter time in the great white north and the bench racing has begun. 
We'll all look forward to you getting a chance to do something more aggressive than dyno racing your combo in the spring. Good luck with it at a the track after the thaw.
Rick
We'll all look forward to you getting a chance to do something more aggressive than dyno racing your combo in the spring. Good luck with it at a the track after the thaw.Rick
......and that's not bench racing....BTW did you read your pm? 9 Second Club
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off topic at this point.
are a/w set ups WORSE on the street than a/a, definitely no. can they work just fine on the street, yes
fwiw i have never made 3 back to back 0-160mph street races in my life, nor seen or heard of it. if i make 3 back to back 3rd gear pulls then i was pobably in the middle of getting my *** handed to me.
normally all it takes is one third gear pull to get the job done. my a/w is totally ready for that as/is and will work as good as any a/a when it is happening. without running the pump or using the reservoir.
it only gets better when you do and ice up
are a/w set ups WORSE on the street than a/a, definitely no. can they work just fine on the street, yes
fwiw i have never made 3 back to back 0-160mph street races in my life, nor seen or heard of it. if i make 3 back to back 3rd gear pulls then i was pobably in the middle of getting my *** handed to me.
normally all it takes is one third gear pull to get the job done. my a/w is totally ready for that as/is and will work as good as any a/a when it is happening. without running the pump or using the reservoir.
it only gets better when you do and ice up
Mark is fast (no pun intended) but there are a whole new bunch of fast cars in the area Just a little more covert.
How was your old set up? you seem to think the A2A is the way to go... I should have paid more attention when 5door had it and wanted to sell it. I am looking at trying a A2W and a heat exchanger, that way the "cruise" to the spot can be done, then when it s time turn the pump on and cool the core. You have to admit there is more and more B/S and standing and less and less racing.....part of the reason I was not around this summer, that an a shattered wrist.
Do you suppose one could cycle the water etc and not return it to the res while driving and then add the icewater tank in the mix when needed?
Thats why I am here gathering info
Mark is fast (no pun intended) but there are a whole new bunch of fast cars in the area Just a little more covert.
How was your old set up? you seem to think the A2A is the way to go... I should have paid more attention when 5door had it and wanted to sell it. I am looking at trying a A2W and a heat exchanger, that way the "cruise" to the spot can be done, then when it s time turn the pump on and cool the core. You have to admit there is more and more B/S and standing and less and less racing.....part of the reason I was not around this summer, that an a shattered wrist.
Do you suppose one could cycle the water etc and not return it to the res while driving and then add the icewater tank in the mix when needed?
Mark is fast (no pun intended) but there are a whole new bunch of fast cars in the area Just a little more covert.
How was your old set up? you seem to think the A2A is the way to go... I should have paid more attention when 5door had it and wanted to sell it. I am looking at trying a A2W and a heat exchanger, that way the "cruise" to the spot can be done, then when it s time turn the pump on and cool the core. You have to admit there is more and more B/S and standing and less and less racing.....part of the reason I was not around this summer, that an a shattered wrist.
Do you suppose one could cycle the water etc and not return it to the res while driving and then add the icewater tank in the mix when needed?
Do you suppose one could cycle the water etc and not return it to the res while driving and then add the icewater tank in the mix when needed?[/QUOTE]
I just fill the tank with ice before I left and cycled it when ready to cool the core....The thing is " as you know" on the street you can only leave or start with so much power and have to BRING IT ON as you go....well ATW is meant for having it all at the start, witch it not possible on the street...so an ATA set-up.....and not a cheap ebay one....makes more power the faster you go....AT THE TOP....which is where you need and can use it on the street...thats part of why we all run them around here.. Fr the AROUND HERE guys we are more about the street thing then the track so....you know..it's about having fun and more of it seems to be had on the street.
I just fill the tank with ice before I left and cycled it when ready to cool the core....The thing is " as you know" on the street you can only leave or start with so much power and have to BRING IT ON as you go....well ATW is meant for having it all at the start, witch it not possible on the street...so an ATA set-up.....and not a cheap ebay one....makes more power the faster you go....AT THE TOP....which is where you need and can use it on the street...thats part of why we all run them around here.. Fr the AROUND HERE guys we are more about the street thing then the track so....you know..it's about having fun and more of it seems to be had on the street.
MN and MI guys arguing about who has the hotter weather 
Give me a ****** break. You are *** deep in snow when its still 85 degrees down here, and all of the Typhoons that I have messed with sure seem to do well with their "sub-par" A2W intercoolers.
Give me a ****** break. You are *** deep in snow when its still 85 degrees down here, and all of the Typhoons that I have messed with sure seem to do well with their "sub-par" A2W intercoolers. Lol.. Of course they do well.....they don't make any power....we have a lot of syclones and typhoons around here too....a lot of them carry a big *** igloo cooler in the back too...lol
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I would like to thank everyone that has provided information in this thread
I would ask that we get it back on topic so its easy for others to see the technical aspects of the thread
I would love to see some install pictures of the big A2A coolers.
Does anyone have any information on bigger exchangers that shed the heat in the A2W exchangers?
I would ask that we get it back on topic so its easy for others to see the technical aspects of the thread
I would love to see some install pictures of the big A2A coolers.
Does anyone have any information on bigger exchangers that shed the heat in the A2W exchangers?
From what i have noticed all the guys that are in the 9 and 8 second club are for the A2W and all the other guys that run what ever in the 1/4 are for the A2A. That's funny.
Pics Thanks 
My Old A2A.....
Stenod Performance Built Air to Air Intercooler
Bell Core
24" Long by 6" Tall by 4.5" Thick
The above is just the core size
The core flows 2077 CFM
swapped it out for a PT1500 A2W unit........
Stenod Performance Built Air to Air Intercooler
Bell Core
24" Long by 6" Tall by 4.5" Thick
The above is just the core size
The core flows 2077 CFM
swapped it out for a PT1500 A2W unit........