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Old 12-10-2008, 07:51 PM
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I almost forgot. I am dubbing this build "PUNISHR" Trans Am Edition. This will replace myh emblems. I think i should be able to fill those shoes. (;

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THIS IS V1. Im still messing with the emblem.
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it can be done, i love my blower whine
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Originally Posted by F1C YA
it can be done, i love my blower whine
how much power you putting to the ground?^^^
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Originally Posted by Black_Hawk_02
I would love a twin screw blower. There my favorite. but i havent heard of a mount for the LS7.

I know MTI can stick a TVS1900 on LS3 heads. but there isnt even a tuner kit yet.

If they came out with a kit for a Kenne Bell 2.8H or a TVS2300 Id get that in a heartbeat.. but i dont think that will be soon.

So thats how i came to Centris.
On a 427 even a tvs 2300 isnt enough IMO. Theres a reason gm chose that for their ZR1, on only a 6.2 liter engine.
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Originally Posted by ChiTownHustler
True traditional COG setups aren't that great for a street car or a stick car where the RPM is varied between gears because the belt takes alot of abuse, and there is no decel slip like you would have on a serp. setup. However the ATI superpulley solves that problem with their one way clutched COG belt, which allows free wheeling of the pulley on decel. This way COG belts last a long time and boost recovery between gears is much faster because the blower free wheels and is not pulled down by the dropping RPM of the engine
Oh ok wow learn something new everyday! Thanks!
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^^^ Yea i actually learned that from reading Jasons Z06 build by EPP. they put the ATI superpulley on it.

With "sprag technology"
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Good luck on your build, how do you intend on fitting all that stuff in where the procharger normally goes on the f-body? With the superpulley and cog set up, its gonna be wayyyy in the front where the radiator, AC stuff would be.
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There is a KB to LS7 kit avaliable...go onto the corvette forum and have a look for total performace i think. its run by the guy that had the ornage vette that made the 800/800 graph with table top torque. he is now shooting for well over 1000bhp on a LSx i think.

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Originally Posted by chuntington101
There is a KB to LS7 kit avaliable...go onto the corvette forum and have a look for total performace i think. its run by the guy that had the ornage vette that made the 800/800 graph with table top torque. he is now shooting for well over 1000bhp on a LSx i think.

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i think youll have trouble fitting a kb. the procharger would be easier.
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Originally Posted by bigsticksupra
Good luck on your build, how do you intend on fitting all that stuff in where the procharger normally goes on the f-body? With the superpulley and cog set up, its gonna be wayyyy in the front where the radiator, AC stuff would be.
A/C? no...

and ill probably have to move the rad. a little. but thats not stuff i plan for... that the kinda stuff ill deal with when it gets here.
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I have a couple questions...

1) Is it worth the money to build an

LS7 based 427/454
vs
LS2/LQ9 based 402/408


2) How many people are running F1's on F-body?

What are you running? times? power? weight?

I know EPP's camaro is a LQ9. but they are still messing with theirs.

Im gonna spend some time today pricing out builds.

let me know what ya think. thanks guys

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I guess for a street car...I would go with a turbo..it's quite.....and way easier to get the car to hook up on the street.....seems like every SC car I see on the street just spins the tires.....Just my 2 cents..
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Originally Posted by Black_Hawk_02
I have a couple questions...

1) Is it worth the money to build an

LS7 based 427/454
vs
LS2/LQ9 based 402/408


2) How many people are running F1's on F-body?

What are you running? times? power? weight?

I know EPP's camaro is a LQ9. but they are still messing with theirs.

Im gonna spend some time today pricing out builds.

let me know what ya think. thanks guys
jeff (inspector12) is running an F1 on a 408 LS2 based i believe right under a 1000 hp. you can never have a budget just get that card ready
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i do not think this is going anywhere... but you want 9s with 1000rwhp? Try 8s if you hook...
What kind of tire will you be running?
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Also are you talking about 1000rwhp procharged on 93?

Goodluck with that if you are.
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Yea. i was hoping for 8's, with that combo. but i didnt want to set unreasonable goals.


I can always run a can of octane booster, and a meth inj kit. but it should be able to be done.


Those were my goals... i may have to dial it back for now. so i have more money for school. im just not sure where to do it.

I may have to do an N/A engine... but id rather not.. i may do a smaller cube F1
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Originally Posted by Black_Hawk_02
I can always run a can of octane booster, and a meth inj kit. but it should be able to be done.
You may want to rethink your build because "octane boosters" will not keep up with the demand of pump gas and 1000rwhp. (IMO octane boosters are all BS) Also a meth kit is nice but you probably will be spraying more meth than using gas to make thoes kinds of numbers on pump gas.
This would be extreamly hard to do with a supercharger (procharger) but not impossible but probably not too streetable...
If you want to do a turbo a single front mount or twins - pump gas and 1000rwhp is more achievable!

EDIT: One more thing EPA ratings are in MPG yours will be GPM.
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Im not really worried about getting 1000whp...

numbers are useless... Ill build what i want. and see where it gets me.
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give you a little of my experience...

347, F1C, 8 rib SDCE tensioner setup, stainless 3 inch custom ORY and 4 inch custom catback.
first thing is the F series blowers are no where near "stealth". you hear the supercharger well before the exhaust. then, the radiator is within 1/2 inch of the blower inlet. no intake ducting or filter with the radiator(without the left side fan) and a/c condenser in the stock location. there is no way you will get more than 8 rib on it without some serious mods, let alone any type of cog setup.
the exhaust is not too streetable either, but we have gotten by with it so far. good exhaust is important to any performance setup and it usually makes noise.
fuel is the next issue. 1000 rwhp on pump gas is gonna be hard to get, but possible. you may want to consider E85. i currently am on 110, but will more than likely go E85 next season. chances are you are gonna need to go to a stand alone efi as well to make the system easier to tune and safety with your engine investment. BS3 or FAST would be wise choices, especially when you will need a injector bigger than 60#.
if i were you with the 1000rwhp streetable goal i would go turbo. they are usually quieter than blowers and do not have the drive issues either. pump gas or race gas tune, boost controller. you should check out Mightymouse's setup for good reference to a quick street car.
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Originally Posted by Black_Hawk_02
GOALS...

9's
Full weight
Daily driver
1000WHP
stealthy AKA not dragster loud like it is now. headers and a y...
Originally Posted by Black_Hawk_02
Im not really worried about getting 1000whp...

numbers are useless... Ill build what i want. and see where it gets me.
Excuse me if i missed something, but look at what you said in bold...
Are you looking for horsepower numbers? (bragging rights)
or Track times?

You can do 9s and not have 1000rwhp with out a problem.
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