Custom Intercooler?
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From: Dallas, Ga (2.7 miles from Southeastern Dragway)
Custom Intercooler? I'm looking for an intercooler like depicted in this incredible MS Paint mad skills effort. Height is sorta limited, so the typical single side with vertical core is no dice. The 180º u turn may create some flow problems,.... but hey that's somebody elses job to figure out. May seem strange, but would be easier to mount and easier i/c pipes.
Ever seen one, or recomend somebody?
Ever seen one, or recomend somebody?
You really, really don't want something as restrictive and low flowing as that. The air path available to the hot charge would limit the IC to something in the 325-450cfm range, before you add the u-turn into the mix.
Jim
Jim
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i say go for it. you never know what might happen. its hard to say if it will or will not be restrictive. or efficiant for that matter. hell you would think restricting a garden hose with your thumb would hurt, as a result, you get the same flow with more velocity, .....to a certain point then it chokes off. so try it. like i said ,ya never know
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i say go for it. you never know what might happen. its hard to say if it will or will not be restrictive.
Forget about the U-turn part of that IC setup, and then it just looks like a really long IC with a small charge flow area and a huge crossflow (cooling) surface. It will have high charge heat rejection, which is good. But it will have a tiny charge flow area which is bad, and it will have really long passages which add drag, also bad.
This idea might work on a Honda that didn't need a lot of total air flow, but on a V8 under boost that needs roughly in the 700-1100cfm range (pretty common) it is a crappy idea that will choke the entire setup.
Call Gerhart (IIRC) at Bell Intercoolers. He helped me get my design perfect. They are pricey but if you really need a custom they are IMHO the best and best priced.
Jim
As others have stated, the 180 bend in the IC would be a huge restriction. Typically you want to have a few bends as possible and when you need a bend, try to keep it to 90 degrees or less.
No, that's not true. The charge flow area is easily calculated and results in a cfm rating for a given intercooler design at a certain pressure drop.
Forget about the U-turn part of that IC setup, and then it just looks like a really long IC with a small charge flow area and a huge crossflow (cooling) surface. It will have high charge heat rejection, which is good. But it will have a tiny charge flow area which is bad, and it will have really long passages which add drag, also bad.
This idea might work on a Honda that didn't need a lot of total air flow, but on a V8 under boost that needs roughly in the 700-1100cfm range (pretty common) it is a crappy idea that will choke the entire setup.
Call Gerhart (IIRC) at Bell Intercoolers. He helped me get my design perfect. They are pricey but if you really need a custom they are IMHO the best and best priced.
Jim
Forget about the U-turn part of that IC setup, and then it just looks like a really long IC with a small charge flow area and a huge crossflow (cooling) surface. It will have high charge heat rejection, which is good. But it will have a tiny charge flow area which is bad, and it will have really long passages which add drag, also bad.
This idea might work on a Honda that didn't need a lot of total air flow, but on a V8 under boost that needs roughly in the 700-1100cfm range (pretty common) it is a crappy idea that will choke the entire setup.
Call Gerhart (IIRC) at Bell Intercoolers. He helped me get my design perfect. They are pricey but if you really need a custom they are IMHO the best and best priced.
Jim
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I'm looking for an intercooler like depicted in this incredible MS Paint mad skills effort. Height is sorta limited, so the typical single side with vertical core is no dice. The 180º u turn may create some flow problems,.... but hey that's somebody elses job to figure out. May seem strange, but would be easier to mount and easier i/c pipes.
Ever seen one, or recomend somebody?
Ever seen one, or recomend somebody?
the reason i ask is because you are effectively halving the flow rate of the overall core by doing this.
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thanks, not trying to be an *** or anything, just trying to figure out the requirements for his system. if this is the best he can use then thats it. however there maybe better ways to do it.
plus i really like these threads as it gets you thinking outside the box a little.
Chris.
plus i really like these threads as it gets you thinking outside the box a little.
Chris.
