View Poll Results: STS 70mm 8 PSI Turbo(IC) VS Procharger D-1SC 8 PSI(IC)?
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STS VS Procharger Poll?!!!!!
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The STS system is limited, as many F/I. But you have to understand that boost, when in it, is boost. So 8 pounds of a procharger will give the same power as 8 pounds of turbo.
I would not pull my STS, but, as an early adaptor (2003), I would not recommend one either.
The oil return system is probably the worst design I have ever seen. As a System Engineer, I have seen some bad systems, and it is right there.
Move it away from the head, which was not designed to take the extra fluid flow, and put it down into the pan, where it belongs.
I would not pull my STS, but, as an early adaptor (2003), I would not recommend one either.
The oil return system is probably the worst design I have ever seen. As a System Engineer, I have seen some bad systems, and it is right there.
Move it away from the head, which was not designed to take the extra fluid flow, and put it down into the pan, where it belongs.
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i dont understand how stupid people can get.... have you ever experienced an sts car or any turbo car.. my guess is no so just SHHH... put your input in and move on dont bash on something you have never dealt with
Thanks guys for all the input. Here's the deal. I had decided on STS and ordered one...they dragged their feet and it was taking forever. In the meantime I had a lot of people(like on here) tell me to go Procharger. I called STS to cancel my order..."Oh, well it's already been sent." It figures. But also they charge 20%, yes 20% to return an order. That's like $1100.00. How rediculous is that. So I am stuck with it. I hate to say stuck, but I'm just kind of ticked at their customer service right now as they were supposed to let me know when it shipped. The new updated system with Intercooler looks very sweet, in fact I'm looking at it now. I can't wait to see that IC in the front of my car.
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ull like it trust me put it on take your time and you will have a blast plus the turbo sound is awesome and when people see a FMIC on an Fbody they freak out and you will be the center of attention everywhere you go
a lot of bias on this forum so you can't always believe what you read. I didn't vote, because obviously my vote would be for the STS kit. I have never dealt with a pro-charger system before, so I cannot comment on how good it works, let alone vote between the 2. This poll pretty much represents who has more of which system, not which one is better because they both have their strong and weak points.
With that said, the STS kit is a good system, but it needs tweaking for it to be optimal. Also, don't count on STS customer service for anything. You will get more help from us here on LS1tech than from them. Let us know if you need any help with the install.
a lot of bias on this forum so you can't always believe what you read. I didn't vote, because obviously my vote would be for the STS kit. I have never dealt with a pro-charger system before, so I cannot comment on how good it works, let alone vote between the 2. This poll pretty much represents who has more of which system, not which one is better because they both have their strong and weak points.
With that said, the STS kit is a good system, but it needs tweaking for it to be optimal. Also, don't count on STS customer service for anything. You will get more help from us here on LS1tech than from them. Let us know if you need any help with the install.
With that said, the STS kit is a good system, but it needs tweaking for it to be optimal. Also, don't count on STS customer service for anything. You will get more help from us here on LS1tech than from them. Let us know if you need any help with the install.
Lol. You're right. I nearly have to change my pants when I see a FMIC!!!!!
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and you can throw that shh up your ***, because you are obviously an sts customer and you are ashamed do admit you purchased a a peace of **** turbo system.
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^^^ dude im not ganna get it a pissing contest with you but you are dumber then a box of rocks my dad owns a semi truck company and he has an 03 F350 and i have a 05 Cummins and i wouldnt let you even look at any of my trucks let alone touch then with your ******* stupidity and lack of common sense.... yes i am an STS owner and love it drive it everyday and eat morans like you on 5psi not worth hitting the button for 8psi
BOSS APPROVED! ^^^ dude im not ganna get it a pissing contest with you but you are dumber then a box of rocks my dad owns a semi truck company and he has an 03 F350 and i have a 05 Cummins and i wouldnt let you even look at any of my trucks let alone touch then with your ******* stupidity and lack of common sense.... yes i am an STS owner and love it drive it everyday and eat morans like you on 5psi not worth hitting the button for 8psi
That must be a quick truck.
^^^ dude im not ganna get it a pissing contest with you but you are dumber then a box of rocks my dad owns a semi truck company and he has an 03 F350 and i have a 05 Cummins and i wouldnt let you even look at any of my trucks let alone touch then with your ******* stupidity and lack of common sense.... yes i am an STS owner and love it drive it everyday and eat morans like you on 5psi not worth hitting the button for 8psi
lack of common sense? you are a ******* idiot man. common sense is that the hotter the air the more it expands and this will help the turbo spool quicker and by placing the turbo in the back with all that piping the air cools no matter how much you wrap it.
that's it i am done posting in this thread, all i was trying to do is save the guy 4500bucks, but it is too late now.
The STS system is limited, as many F/I. But you have to understand that boost, when in it, is boost. So 8 pounds of a procharger will give the same power as 8 pounds of turbo.
I would not pull my STS, but, as an early adaptor (2003), I would not recommend one either.
The oil return system is probably the worst design I have ever seen. As a System Engineer, I have seen some bad systems, and it is right there.
Move it away from the head, which was not designed to take the extra fluid flow, and put it down into the pan, where it belongs.
I would not pull my STS, but, as an early adaptor (2003), I would not recommend one either.
The oil return system is probably the worst design I have ever seen. As a System Engineer, I have seen some bad systems, and it is right there.
Move it away from the head, which was not designed to take the extra fluid flow, and put it down into the pan, where it belongs.
You're right, a proper turbo set-up is hard to beat. To me a proper turbo set-up has the turbo mounted as close to the heat source as possible. APS has the closest thing to an oem proper turbo set-up that I have seen, that is mass produced and can be had quickly when a customer orders one. Bob
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Procharger for sure I have a p1 on 7psi, with an epp boost cam, its making 535hp 475tq at the wheels, gets 23mpg on the highway, well mannered pulls harder and harder as the rpms go up all the way to redline, no lag is the best way to go. plus you wont get that sound out of a turbo.
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What exactly is the problem with returning oil to the valve cover?