Calling out APS
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Has anyone with a turbo failure had the turbos professionally checked out to see what caused it? To make a blanket statement that the turbos were at fault is BS without actually getting the problem diagnosed. It could be the turbo, oil feed line, clearances, oil return there are a bunch of possible problems.
Completely true. But given the track record of Chinese knock-off turbos, then looking at pictures that shows the APS units with huge flaws in the machining its fairly simple to figure that the turbos are likely at fault. The burden of proof is on Peter at this point. If it is a problem with his kit and not the turbos then he should step up and figure it out on HIS DIME.
Again, IF they were Mitsu CHRA's the failures would be very strange and would warrant investigation. IF they are knock-offs then the problem would be not so much a surprise and would explain why Peter is not going out of his way to figure out the problem.
^^^ i am one of the first 50. and i paid 5500(or something like that) for a turbo kit that can support 18psi and be a bolt on kit.
so peter can i have my Inlet ducts for free. you didnt sell me the kit i bought. when you release the intle ducts we went over it then.
You say you havent done anything wrong. well so far you havent sold me what i bought and that is wrong. so can i please have my turbo kit that supports 18psi. so if i just need the inlet ducts. please ship them to me at your cost. and i will ship the old ones back at my cost
so peter can i have my Inlet ducts for free. you didnt sell me the kit i bought. when you release the intle ducts we went over it then.
You say you havent done anything wrong. well so far you havent sold me what i bought and that is wrong. so can i please have my turbo kit that supports 18psi. so if i just need the inlet ducts. please ship them to me at your cost. and i will ship the old ones back at my cost
And they should send spacers for the sway bars free. I will do my own but they should be free. Especially if the tubes hit on stock height cars with stock sway bars. I have my car at stock height now and went to smaller front sway. I havent' installed it yet.
Well, I guess everybody knows with a 90% certainty that they are not the real deal mits 20g's
So go ahead and tell us what we most likely already know..............these are just cheap turbos and not the real 20g like we were supposed to get.
So if we know the answer to this question, will that tell us that we could get real 20g centers and these turbos would be great for our setup,.................OR.........were these kits just flawed from the beginning, putting too small of a turbo on cars that they knew DAMN well were going to get turned up to their advertised potential.
Has any turbo experts looked at the potential for a pair of genuine 20g's?? Can even real 20g's handle a 346 370 408 or a 427 at high boost levels??
So, Peter
Did APS give us cheap knock-off turbos,.........or........did APS just do a **** poor job of matching turbos to our needs..........or......both.
Don't gives us any **** about......we need to see the failed turbos..............YOU know the answer to this and you are just too much of a little Bitch to tell us.
I would go ahead and say that by you trying to sell us GT35's for the kits .......the answer is......both
So go ahead and tell us what we most likely already know..............these are just cheap turbos and not the real 20g like we were supposed to get.
So if we know the answer to this question, will that tell us that we could get real 20g centers and these turbos would be great for our setup,.................OR.........were these kits just flawed from the beginning, putting too small of a turbo on cars that they knew DAMN well were going to get turned up to their advertised potential.
Has any turbo experts looked at the potential for a pair of genuine 20g's?? Can even real 20g's handle a 346 370 408 or a 427 at high boost levels??
So, Peter
Did APS give us cheap knock-off turbos,.........or........did APS just do a **** poor job of matching turbos to our needs..........or......both.
Don't gives us any **** about......we need to see the failed turbos..............YOU know the answer to this and you are just too much of a little Bitch to tell us.
I would go ahead and say that by you trying to sell us GT35's for the kits .......the answer is......both
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You make me laugh, I've done absolutely zero wrong so why should I not be happy. Any customer who has a problem is welcome to contact me direct at any time and I will do what I can to assist. Other than that, I'm a very happy person and have no concern about what some on this forum say, it's water off a ducks back to me....lol.
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This type of bad reputation is poison to a company.Since you won't answer the question I'll go about this in a different way.
>>>The turbos in the F-Body APS kits are confirmed to be cheap knock-offs.<<<
Go ahead, Peter@APS, tell me I'm wrong.
I know...but I want Mr. Cheers saying it. To me thats where the real issue is. The ad clearly leads you to believe you were buying something that in the end it wasnt. To him is easier to dismiss it saying people have to ship that crap over there....just to send you another crappy turbo. Of course there is always the possibility they will tell you the unit was fine but was installed incorrectly etc, etc...
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Thank you Silverado -
You've saved me a TON of money and heartache as well by this great uncovering of bullshit. I appreciate it very much.
My money will stay in America - and if/when I go with a TT set-up on my Vette - Josh will be getting my business.
Your non-Aussie friend
You've saved me a TON of money and heartache as well by this great uncovering of bullshit. I appreciate it very much.
My money will stay in America - and if/when I go with a TT set-up on my Vette - Josh will be getting my business.
Your non-Aussie friend
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I know...but I want Mr. Cheers saying it. To me thats where the real issue is. The ad clearly leads you to believe you were buying something that in the end it wasnt. To him is easier to dismiss it saying people have to ship that crap over there....just to send you another crappy turbo. Of course there is always the possibility they will tell you the unit was fine but was installed incorrectly etc, etc...
Thank you Silverado -
You've saved me a TON of money and heartache as well by this great uncovering of bullshit. I appreciate it very much.
My money will stay in America - and if/when I go with a TT set-up on my Vette - Josh will be getting my business.
Your non-Aussie friend
You've saved me a TON of money and heartache as well by this great uncovering of bullshit. I appreciate it very much.
My money will stay in America - and if/when I go with a TT set-up on my Vette - Josh will be getting my business.
Your non-Aussie friend
Has anyone with a turbo failure had the turbos professionally checked out to see what caused it? To make a blanket statement that the turbos were at fault is BS without actually getting the problem diagnosed. It could be the turbo, oil feed line, clearances, oil return there are a bunch of possible problems.
YES, turbos have been sent to a professionals. They're pieces of ****. 
here is the first one that failed on me, when I get them back off the car again I will post up new pictures
Water off a ducks back huh, whether you like it or not people are reading this thread in large numbers.
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Today 07:38 PM
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In the short time this thread has been going, there are a few interesting numbers to mull over.
This thread is 33 pages long as of this posting. There are 655 posts in this thread at this point. But here is the kicker, 41,500 views. This thread is being read by TONS of people. With all the links posted on other forums, i'd say they are doing their jobs of letting people know what kind of business you operate.
Calling out APS ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
xXxSilveradoxXx
Today 07:38 PM
by Darren P
655 41,500
In the short time this thread has been going, there are a few interesting numbers to mull over.
This thread is 33 pages long as of this posting. There are 655 posts in this thread at this point. But here is the kicker, 41,500 views. This thread is being read by TONS of people. With all the links posted on other forums, i'd say they are doing their jobs of letting people know what kind of business you operate.
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here is the first one that failed on me, when I get them back off the car again I will post up new pictures
here is the first one that failed on me, when I get them back off the car again I will post up new pictures
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Are you talking to me? Are you wondering about how much a kit costs or how much I bought mine for?
I would also like to point something out that I asked in the APS FAIL thread on the GTO forum, just in case some new people come in here. Dave "aka Peter" has YET to respond to this question, as well as the FAKE TURBOS
Peter @ APS is not a real person
His real name is Dave Inall and he has created this name to hide his identity...He is the Croooked SOB that STOLE money from many people
HE IS A FRAUD JUST LIKE HIS TURBO'S.
Peter @ APS is not a real person
His real name is Dave Inall and he has created this name to hide his identity...He is the Croooked SOB that STOLE money from many people
HE IS A FRAUD JUST LIKE HIS TURBO'S.