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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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I have NEVER seen this before, but apparently it is now being mass produced, and for LS1's.

HAs anyone ever seen this on a ls1, or does anyone on here actually have the kit on their car? Seems a little ackward to me....but then again, I am not a turboo guru. Any opinions guys?

http://www.ststurbo.com/camaro_install_pics

Below is a vid of the turbo kit on a LT1.....

http://www.discountchips.net/2kss/vi...bolt1final.mpg

WTF~!

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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Heh, this kit is causing a h3ll of alot of controversy on this and other boards right now. 'Round these parts, do a search, rear and turbo. UFBA website and Camaroz28 and the other LS1 board are all debating this kit. Personally, I think it's pretty cool. I'm not looking for a full blown max horsepower, drag racing kit. I just want something that will be a lot of fun on the street. And for the price and power of a good heads/ cam kit, I don't think you can go wrong.
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Don`t you guys read these forums? geez.
Theres a new thread about this kit started like every other day. Read through about the last three weeks of threads and you`ll find about 4 hours worth of bickering back and forth about this kit.
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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Yah im usaully the STS forum starter here
Im getting my kit the first of the year I already paid my deposite
iam getting the 4th perduction kit made
Im going to try too pull some real good power and times from this kit
The kit is what you pay for and I cant afford a QMP kit so be it
Its seemed to make really good power though without too much lag
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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For the price you could get a hella' awesome H/C setup and have just as much power and maybe more.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CANNIBAL
For the price you could get a hella' awesome H/C setup and have just as much power and maybe more.
500 rwhp and 550 rwtq? I'd like to know where to get that H/C setup!
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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He ment Heads/Cam and Spray
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cm02WS6
500 rwhp and 550 rwtq? I'd like to know where to get that H/C setup!
Yup! Great (supposed) numbers. Show me the ET/WT...

500/550 is just another customer satisfaction index, so far.

There are MANY examples of H/C/Vertor cars running 11-oh with "only" 425rwhp. These rw dyno numbers should be good for 10.20s AT LEAST.

"Show me the money"

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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STS ET's Coming in January!! in South Florida
5psi and 9psi runs ,tunning ,fuel pump ,42# injecters!
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by I8Your03Cobra
STS ET's Coming in January!! in South Florida
5psi and 9psi runs ,tunning ,fuel pump ,42# injecters!
If you mean "tuning", then cool! If you're going to hunt the Hon-Duhs that I know, you better be two seconds quicker in Deeeeeetriot. See ya when the times come down...

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cm02WS6
500 rwhp and 550 rwtq? I'd like to know where to get that H/C setup!
and show me a heads/cam setup that not only puts out that kind of power but retains any semblance of stock drivability
edit: and costs any significant amount less or complies with emissions as well

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Well, in Hawaii the best H/C cars are only running 12-ohs, and one or two may have clicked off an 11.9, but of course all are a hair under 425rwhp, but unlike the 425s @ 11.0s these are full interior (minus rr seat + rollbar!).

Nice looking on paper, lets see the results. I am interested as well. Seen a QMP on a friends car, too crowded, and lots of problems...not all from the kit itself, but the rigorous hours of install look like they took there toll.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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I owned a 1987 Grand National for about 11 eleven years (great car)
before I sold it (I could not deal myself with underbody rust...) .

I upgraded this car a lot and it was really fast,
especially in the winter at below freezing temperatures.

If you have a certain light load on the engine (turbo not spooled up but coasting) and then push the accelerator hard, the gas flow must build up to really make the turbo spool up to very high rpms. To do this you must get the entire volume from the impeller wheel, intake etc. pressurized. It would seem to me that because in this new turbo system there is a lot of "pipe" because of the location of the turbo, a lot of air mass must get mobilized before pressure builds. This should express itslef as a longer turbo lag than systems
which are right by the engine. However, with our engines this may be okay.
A more gradual build up will not hit the drivetrain hard and kill it but
load it more smoothly. Also, the more pipe bends you have the more pressure drop you have. The turbo has to produce pressure for all the pressure losses
and the boost pressure that is wanted in the cylinder.
I would be more concerend with propoer oiling of the turbo bearings and the turbo generating heat near the gas tank (in the LS1 cars)
The turbo and filter etc. are also exposed to the street - recall that the turbine impeller fins have very tight tolerances to the housing. SO, a big rock hitting it,
or a speed bumb etc. might cause a problem driving around in practice (I am thinking off the pot holes in and around NYC during and after the winter.

Anyway, I think it is a neat idea and am also curious to see how well it actually will do in practice.

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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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I agree with Gert 100%.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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Ya this new turbo setup is kinda cool, its always good to get a weird qwerky idea of turbo placement out there, cause I am pretty sure it will work well.
May not be the 'best' power, but most people don't want 1980's turbocharged indy car engines anyway.
Rock on to those who are getting it. Can't wait to see numbers and pics.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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SSOBLUE I get whoop Bye my friends Honda's here too
Well my friends Honda's 2 of them fully gutted
390rwhp an the other 461rwhp
and 3 of them in the 600rwhp's but they keep blowing head gaskets on the dyno
All of them hatches
Turbo
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10.4 @ 146mph
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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I think this new turbo set up is kinda cool, but i hate the fact it replaces your muffler. Maybe it would change my mind if i heard a good video and actually heard it.
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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just put a bullet muffler in the I pipe. the I pipe in this setup is basically the downpipe to a regularly placed turbo and its not terrible to have some restriction there. the turb itself also quiets down the exhaust a little.
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPlanTransAm
just put a bullet muffler in the I pipe. the I pipe in this setup is basically the downpipe to a regularly placed turbo and its not terrible to have some restriction there. the turb itself also quiets down the exhaust a little.
That's an awful idea. The intermediate pipe goes into the turbine housing on this kit. If you want a muffler put it in the downpipe after the turbo.
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