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Old 11-19-2009, 04:22 PM
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When Precision released their new 46mm Wastegate, we were asked by our clients to do a side by side comparison with the Tial 44mm, you are probably wondering, why not against the Tial 46mm?? and the reason is because even though Tial makes a 46mm, it is the 44mm that has the same mounting flange as Precision’s therefore if you have a header with that mounting flange already on it the decision would be between the Tial 44mm and the Precision 46mm. Below is the observations we were able to make by taking them apart, and comparing their internals.

Tial is a 44mm Wastegate that comes in a multitude of colors. Precision’s has a bit of a larger valve, 46mm, and it is only available in black. The boxes are the same size and they both come packed with the same foam material that completely protects every part from damage during shipping.





Below are the contents of the boxes the way they come, the clear difference is that the Precision comes with 3 extra springs in the box, that way you have the possibility to replace them without having to make a separate order for them.




As for the hardware, both have the banjo design, but the Precision brings an extra plug in case you don’t use one of the ports of the Wastegate and the Tial doesn’t have this in their hardware.



When side by side they look very similar, however the Precision unit is a bit smaller in height compared to the Tial.




The underside again is the same basic design, however you can see how the valve in the precision is a little bit larger (2mm) than the Tial unit.




Once apart, the precision comes standard with 2 springs, and the seat materials are visibly different, I ‘m not qualified to give a breakdown on the materials, however the structure of the seat itself is the same, and even though is hard to tell from the pictures they both use a 4 Allen key setup to hold the seat to the valve itself.



Internally the main difference is Precision uses a longer sleeve to hold the stem of the valve.



And last but not least the literature. Precision comes with a multi page full color instruction’s manual, Tial half a letter size paper printed in both sides.




Hope this can help you make an educated decision when in the market for a Wastegate.
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Originally Posted by TitanMotorsports
As for the hardware, both have the banjo design, but the Precision brings an extra plug in case you don’t use one of the ports of the Wastegate and the Tial doesn’t have this in their hardware.
Looks nice; but, wouldn't you want a vent, rather than a plug, for an unused port?
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I would think so...
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for a ls1 with a 370 with 83mm turbo would this be a good wastegate to get compared to the jgs 40mm
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The Tial 44 was too small to control boost on my 364 w/ pt88
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looks good. What are the prices when compared? A good competitive price would be the determining factor for most.
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGBRKR02
looks good. What are the prices when compared? A good competitive price would be the determining factor for most.
yep. looks nice. i will buy which ever one is cheaper.
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Originally Posted by parish8
yep. looks nice. i will buy which ever one is cheaper.
ditto, my synapse 50mm gate is a pita and i was gonna make a switch to the TiAl but this precision looks pretty good
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It seems as if the PTE ones can be had alittle cheaper then the Tial's.

Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
The Tial 44 was too small to control boost on my 364 w/ pt88
Tial 44 did perfectly fine on my 408 with a t4 PTE 88. Alot depends on the exhaust, and wastegate placement.

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Yep the PTE is a nice piece. We carry them if you need them guys. The Tial is a nice piece as well. Also JGS's 50 and Turbosmarts new 45mm all fall in the same price range. We carry those as well. PTE will have several new gates coming.



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