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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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Ok, so I was originally gonna build a 370 but missed my chance at a really cheap local LQ4, so I'm just gonna go with what I already have. I currently have a stock LS1 I got off a buddy that spun a bearing. No big deal right, just get a line hone on the block with ARP studs installed, get the crank turned & then grab the correct sized bearings.

But.... the snout of the crank needs some work. Has anyone has a stock crank bolt hole re-tapped or heli-coiled on a boosted car? Will it hold up or do I just need to scrap it & buy a good used crank? Of coarse it will be recieving a ARP crank bolt but I just wanted to see if its ok to re-use this one or a bad idea.

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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i dont see how it would matter if it was turbo, is it a belt driven blower?
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Turbo doesnt run off your pullies though, thats all powered by exhaust. Where as a blower like a Procharger run off your crank pulley.

I have heard that a blower will put more stress on the crank pulley. Hence my wondering weather a worked over snout is ok or not in a FI application. I did a little research in the internal section & saw someone had their crank drilled/tapped for a standard 3/4" bolt & just ran a washer with it.

Would this be the best option??
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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yea i was asking if your going turbo or procharger. my bad. you could also have the crank pinned. but i would think if the hole was drilled and tapped right it would be fine
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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yea i was asking if your going turbo or procharger. my bad. you could also have the crank pinned. but i would think if the hole was drilled and tapped right it would be fine
Crank pinning is for the balancer pulley, to keep it from spinning on the crank snout. Has nothing to do with the balancer bolt that I know of anyway. If I'm incorrect someone please let me know.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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right, you still have yet to say if your using a procharger or turbo
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Its gonna be a D1SC Procharger build.
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A helicoil will *probably* be ok, they expand when you thread the bolt, HOWEVER, I would probably just get a new stock crank, they are cheap, and thats a big helicoil. Better safe than sorry fo' sho.
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Blowers exert alot of force on the nose of a crank, I would replace the crank and with a different crank in there you can use standard sized bearings. I would also pin the hub while your at it and go 8 rib as well.
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What about having it drilled/tapped for a 3/4" bolt? I believe it was Conan who had this done. I shot him a PM about it.

If its cheaper to get that done & grab a new grade 8 bolt/washer instead of buying another used stock crank in good condition & payin shipping on it, I'm guessing it could be a viable option?
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Originally Posted by Elite_Hot_Rod
Blowers exert alot of force on the nose of a crank, I would replace the crank and with a different crank in there you can use standard sized bearings. I would also pin the hub while your at it and go 8 rib as well.
I already planned on all 8-rib stuff and pinning the crank.

I currently have:

stock j-bracket from Procharger
3.4" 8-rib head unit pulley
7.56" 8-rib crank pulley
ATI dampener for A/C equipped cars

Just been gathering everything as I find good deals on parts.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE2005
What about having it drilled/tapped for a 3/4" bolt? I believe it was Conan who had this done. I shot him a PM about it.

If its cheaper to get that done & grab a new grade 8 bolt/washer instead of buying another used stock crank in good condition & payin shipping on it, I'm guessing it could be a viable option?
I have had my crank drilled/taped. My friend stuck a 3 jaw puller in on my crank with out a block and wrecked my crank threads. My grand father is a machinist and he kept a mill and lathe when he sold his machine shop. He was able to lock my crank in the lathe and he drilled out the first 1/2 inch to 3/4" and then steped it down to 11/16 and cut 3/4 by 16 threads per inch in to the crank. So the threads start in the same place GM placed them. I'm not sure why the threads don't come all the way out to the end of the crank but my grand father wanted to drill it out the same way GM did. He said the amount of materal he removed out of my crank was very minor and he was not worried about the snout becomming weak. So far I have not had any problems with the crank bolt, I have removed the bolt and pully 3 times since he machined it, soon to be 4 times in a bout a week when I do some pully swaping for more boost . The only bitch I have to deal with is a torque spec for my new 3/4" grade 8 bolt. I now "sweat" my pully on the crank, I will heat the pully hub in a toaster oven to 250 deg for 20-30 min and I have even got a block of dry ice from the store and hold it on the crank snout for 5 min before the pully is done baking. Then I torque the bolt down to 100 ft #'s and let it go. So the choice is yours, find out how much a new crank cost VS machining what you have.
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Thankx for the responces guys.
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Let me know what happens with this, Ive been thinking about bringing my car to a machine shop and see if they can rethread the crank while still on the car.
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Let me know what happens with this, Ive been thinking about bringing my car to a machine shop and see if they can rethread the crank while still on the car.
I don't think that would work. Clamping the crank in a lathe insures the drill and tap is going into your crank, plum, level, square, straight, ect, ect...
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No idea, my next option is to put JB weld all over and it and shove it in. Pulling the crank isnt an option.
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