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Old May 15, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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I measured for pushrod length and everything but we burnt a wire and then pulled the valve spring and guess what a collapsed ls7 lifter. Any suggestions going for 900+ whp
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Old May 15, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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What is your seat pressure with the patriots? I wouldn't use LS7's in a 900hp motor. Morels all the way. Ls7 lifters are cheap IMO.
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Old May 15, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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+1 for morels. my ls7's are not in the greatest shape aether after 6000miles. next time i am buying morels.

Cadillac lifters are another good option
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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by elias_799
+1 for morels. my ls7's are not in the greatest shape aether after 6000miles. next time i am buying morels.

Cadillac lifters are another good option
I had a Cadillac lifters break on me, around the roller just cracked and broke off. I know of quite a few people that have had them break. I am currently running the LS7's without issue but I am no where near 900hp lol.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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I've got the comp cam replacement lifters. They seem to be holding up fine. I haven't taken them out yet though.

They also sent me a free t shirt with my purchase
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Old May 16, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by elias_799
+1 for morels. my ls7's are not in the greatest shape aether after 6000miles. next time i am buying morels.

Cadillac lifters are another good option
Thought the ls7 and caddy are the same?
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Old May 16, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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I recently upgraded from LS7 to CTV-R lifters.

Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
Thought the ls7 and caddy are the same?
Nope. The LS7 are stable up to 7000ish RPMs while the CTV-R are stable up to 8000ish RPMs.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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So are the LS7 lifters ****? I am building a TT 441 LSX using the LS7 lifters. Shooting 1100rwhp daily driven
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I haven't had a lifter problem yet and I been in the 850-950 rwhp ballpark for a couple of years with different cams, cubes and power adders. Rev limiter set at 7400 RPM. LS7 lifters. What length did you come up with for the pushrods?
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^^ you think people put to much preload on them ? and that is why they collapse ?
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Originally Posted by elias_799
^^ you think people put to much preload on them ? and that is why they collapse ?
That's where I was going. I haven't seen one fail and we've been thru a bunch of motors over the last few years as a collective group.
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Old May 16, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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^^ what sort of preload you give them ?
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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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7.3s with the decked block and heads milled. We were making 640 hp on a mustang dyno(750ish dynojet) at 12 psi spinning 6500. Had very few miles on them. Putting morels in. Jermey don't cheap on lifters its not worth risking.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1290
I recently upgraded from LS7 to CTV-R lifters.



Nope. The LS7 are stable up to 7000ish RPMs while the CTV-R are stable up to 8000ish RPMs.
really dident know that did u mean ctsv-r or ctv-r?

Pm me a part number.
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I use this method. I copied this from a post by Shane at Thunder.

Here it is again in a nutshell:

1. Using the EO/IC method, get the lifter to the base circle of the cam.
2. Using a known length pushrod (7.400" is a good start with stock rockers) run the rocker arm bolt down to zero lash. This is easily done with your fingers "wiggling" the rocker, the point at which the "slack" is just gone is zero lash.
3. Set your torque wrench to 22 lb./ft. Tighten the rocker to full torque and count the number of turns it takes to get there. 1 full turn wtih a stock 8mm X 1.25 bolt is ~.047" preload as measured at the pushrod/rocker interface.
4. I normally shoot for 1 1/4 to 1 3/4 turns with stock type lifters like Comp 850's, LS1, LS7 etc.

For an example, if you use a 7.400" pushrod and come up with 3/4 of a turn, you will need at least .025" longer pushrod to get into range. If you end up with 2 1/4 turns, you will need one .025" shorter...


If the OP is running a 7.3 pushrod, then it shouldn't be excessive preload. If anything, that's too short of a PR on stock style lifters. The Morels are taller so they require alittle shorter PR. I run 7.35's in mine with the LS7 lifters. My heads are milled down to about a 61cc chamber (they were originally 65cc) and my block was decked a few thousandths.
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
really dident know that did u mean ctsv-r or ctv-r?

Pm me a part number.
CTSV-R. Brain fart on my part.
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Originally Posted by ls1290
CTSV-R. Brain fart on my part.

Got a part number at all?
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Originally Posted by tirefryin_s10
got a part number at all?
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Originally Posted by jeremym
So are the LS7 lifters ****? I am building a TT 441 LSX using the LS7 lifters. Shooting 1100rwhp daily driven
I was running the caddy racing lifters and one failed on me and locked the cam and broke the timing chain and ended up bending eight valves. I have Morel lifters in my engine now. I think the LS7 lifter is better than the caddy lifter but I still think I would spend the money on the Morel lifters if I was you.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Morel link bars here. I don't want to dig into the motor again.
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