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Old May 20, 2010 | 12:42 AM
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I know this subject has been beaten to death in here but i just need to clarify some things. Currently I have a -12 fitting coming out of each valve cover into a breather tank. Thats it. I do not have a ls6 vally pan either, or any filter over the turbo to pull vaccum from. What are my options on a crankcase breather? would it be ok to weld a -10 or -12 fitting on the vally pan and run it to the same breather tank as my valve covers? or do i need to pull a vaccum on the vally pan by running somthing to the intake? thanks guys.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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You need a line from the valley cover or one of the valve covers to the intake (vacuum) with a check valve and preferably a sealed catch can in between.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Not if you have a breather on your catch can. We run a line from each of our valve covers to one of our catch cans and its more than enough venting. Keeps any oil and mess off the covers and provides proper venting for any blowby.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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You dont NEED to pull a vacuum I guess but your missing out on the benifits like improved ring seal and removing some contaminents from the oil. Your setup now will work fine(if the can is vented), if you just want venting and not PCV.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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You definitely want to create vacuum in the block under load conditions for the stated reasons; ring seal and contaminant removal. Pan-vacs are a nice way of creating vacuum under load
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so i need to run a line from my valley cover to the intake with a check valve in it?
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Yep, and a sealed catch can inline. You may be able to get away with not using one but oil vapors being pulled into the intake are not good.
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Originally Posted by LS1NOVA
Yep, and a sealed catch can inline. You may be able to get away with not using one but oil vapors being pulled into the intake are not good.
How would this work lraving the vented cans?

I just have two vented breather tanks like posted above and it works fine
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Originally Posted by Nasty N8
Not if you have a breather on your catch can. We run a line from each of our valve covers to one of our catch cans and its more than enough venting. Keeps any oil and mess off the covers and provides proper venting for any blowby.
i agree. mine does a great job and catches quite a bit of the condensed vapors
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Here's my thread on this issue.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...rs-inside.html
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my main concern is with the intake pulling a vaccum on the valley cover with or without a sealed can inbetween wouldnt it still get oil vapors into the intake?

another option i was considering was to run a line from the valley cover to the downpipe with a check valve and use the exhaust to create the vaccum, or would this not work?
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Originally Posted by 1998TA__1991RS
another option i was considering was to run a line from the valley cover to the downpipe with a check valve and use the exhaust to create the vaccum, or would this not work?
That is a pan-vac and they work very well. I have two installed.
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Originally Posted by ls1290
That is a pan-vac and they work very well. I have two installed.
how did you do this, i plan on running -10 or -12 an line and welding a bung in the exhaust, does anyone make an -10 or -12 check valve?
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ls290, im super interested in this too, although im thinkin to add a sealed catch can , dont want the oil in my exhaust. can you provide more info on what/how etc? i had never though about this till now
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Originally Posted by 98Camarod
How would this work lraving the vented cans?

I just have two vented breather tanks like posted above and it works fine
The line hooked up to the intake would pull vacuum through the one way valve and sealed catch can from the valley cover. The fresh air source would be from the two valve covers vented from the catch can. Remember, a stock PCV system has a fresh air source too, at the throttle body. Under boost the one way valve closed to avoid boosting the crankcase and any positive pressure gets vented from the valve covers throught the vented catch can(has to be vented can).
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i think im going to try this and see how it works....

-12 from each valve cover to breather can, take breather off of can and weld -12 bung to it and run -12 to the exhaust with a check valve, this way no oil will get to the exhaust and the crankcase will have a vaccum on it.
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Originally Posted by LS1NOVA
The line hooked up to the intake would pull vacuum through the one way valve and sealed catch can from the valley cover. The fresh air source would be from the two valve covers vented from the catch can. Remember, a stock PCV system has a fresh air source too, at the throttle body. Under boost the one way valve closed to avoid boosting the crankcase and any positive pressure gets vented from the valve covers throught the vented catch can(has to be vented can).
the stock system is a closed system though. with having the vented cans, its no longer closed.
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Originally Posted by 1998TA__1991RS
how did you do this, i plan on running -10 or -12 an line and welding a bung in the exhaust, does anyone make an -10 or -12 check valve?
I would like toknow this also?
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Originally Posted by 98Camarod
the stock system is a closed system though. with having the vented cans, its no longer closed.
The stock system pulls clean air from the throttle body so the air is filtered by the stock air filter. Its no different with a filtered catch can. Same air.

Id like to know how the exhaust scavenge system works ok, great idea.
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iknow, diggin lol but i have too

]So just to make sure,

i want this setup right? even if i run a rear mounted turbo setup?
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I already have a catch can and check valve with an LS6 valley cover right now. IT would be advisable to run a vac line all the way back to the turbo compressor inlet source? just checking ot make sure.
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