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Old 06-18-2010, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Using the exhaust to keep the front end down. We had 55% on the nose and it still wanted to wheelie when we got after it.
What's helping it in the front end? the extra what... 30lbs? I'm lost, but luckily I'll never build anything as remotely complicated as your bad *** car
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The force of the exhaust will add additional weight to the nose.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
The force of the exhaust will add additional weight to the nose.
Rolls Royce used this with their Merlin and Griffith engines in WW2 fighters and bombers. i think they said the exhaust gas thrust was worth about 250+lbs of thrust alone!

ok that was on a 27-36ltr engine, but they where only making 2500bhp.... thins engines isn't that far off..... and a very nice idea Phil....

Be intresting to see some testing. maybe move the exhasut tips from vertical to horizontal and see what the load on the from dampers are. i think you can buy kit that messures damper travel. very usefull on race cars with LOTS of aero....

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Nice Stock Car Products oil pump, looking really good.
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Nice Stock Car Products oil pump, looking really good.
I got the whole shooting match from Stefs, pan, pump, tank and remote filter setup. So far its worked perfect.
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
Rolls Royce used this with their Merlin and Griffith engines in WW2 fighters and bombers. i think they said the exhaust gas thrust was worth about 250+lbs of thrust alone!

ok that was on a 27-36ltr engine, but they where only making 2500bhp.... thins engines isn't that far off..... and a very nice idea Phil....

Be intresting to see some testing. maybe move the exhasut tips from vertical to horizontal and see what the load on the from dampers are. i think you can buy kit that messures damper travel. very usefull on race cars with LOTS of aero....

Chris.
But in this case it's all focused out of two exit points opposed to several.

should work the same if not better.
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Work continues on the backyard build...

Got the MSD box mounted


MSD box, Co2 mounted and Intercooler mockup


BS3 mount 20ga sheetmetal



BS3 mount 20ga sheetmetal


Turbo blanket courtesy of PTP turbo blankets Thanks guys!


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For all you rusty control arm fans


Control arms done


Tranny mount welded and painted


Painting the cage again


Underbars painted, still need to finish the floor.






Driveshaft loop
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
16 very very big ones, hooked up to a belt drive pump that supports 3600 and an electric one that supports 1400. We're trying to get the duty cycle low so we can add the fuel when we want to add the fuel vs running them static.
With all of that fuel one could assume you decided to switch to alcohol. But I am not familiar with your cars class rules. Either way it is a smart decision to run 16 "big" injectors than 8 Humongous ones. Good luck Phil, I am sure you will attain your goals.
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And whosaid v6 mustangs weren't fast. Nice build there.
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Originally Posted by KONG
With all of that fuel one could assume you decided to switch to alcohol. But I am not familiar with your cars class rules. Either way it is a smart decision to run 16 "big" injectors than 8 Humongous ones. Good luck Phil, I am sure you will attain your goals.
We're staying with c16, there is power to be found when the fuel is injected at the correct time vs being static.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
We're staying with c16, there is power to be found when the fuel is injected at the correct time vs being static.
I agree completely. I have always found that doing the proper research has always allowed me to do more with less. I have no doubt once you get the car sorted you will have the "6 Second Club" in your sig
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Thanks man, last year we ran 160s at almost 80# of base fuel pressure, add 40# on top you get 120# of fuel pressure with 86% duty cycles. I think someone said that they are static at 84% with the RPM we turn.

With the new setup I'll be able to switch over to methanol with a few small changes if we need to but at this point we think we can make enough power to run with the big block twin 91mm combos with the right weight break but time will tell. We're trying to get everything out of this heap without going craxy on the boost. I'd love to be able to run 38-40# of boost and run 175 out the back door but thats a tall feat. We need a motor that will make a ton of torque and a driveline that doesn't rob too much power.
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Holy hell...you weren't kidding when you said you been spending every extra second working on that heap. Looks really good...are you sure you don't like fabbing more than racing,lol. Give's me bad flashbacks just looking at all that work and I didn't go to near the extent you did. I'm pretty sure you will be the first 6 second LS based DR car once you get that rocket figured out.

BTW...got my motor back last night, put it in today.....SPOOLED the 114 in the garage!!!

I plan on pushing it pretty hard in the next couple weeks. Starting in Milan this Friday night!

Mark
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114mm turbo........ Do u have the" May inhale small children stay back 100 feet" sticker?

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Mark is scared he is going to lose the bet....
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i want one!!!!!
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Wolfe ran alright with Q16

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Originally Posted by slowredz
Wolfe ran alright with Q16
Q16 is junk...f'ed up a set of my injectors with wierd residue and did some wierd sh%t to Phil's motor too.


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