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Old 10-31-2014, 10:35 AM
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Nobody will ever convince me to run a projected tip spark plug at medium to high boost levels, why give it even a chance when non-projected tip plugs like the BR7EF, B8EFS, 5671A-8, etc idle just fine.
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I run the BR7's now at 10 lbs, when I go 15lbs I will run the BR8's
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So what if you wanted to run Autolite plugs?

I plan on running about 24#'s of boost (max, and normally probably around 18-20#'s). I also plan on running 93 octane plus meth injection on a 8.8:1 CR.

I cross referenced and it looks like;
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NGK 5671A-8 is Autolite 2614
NGK 5671A-9 is Autolite 2612

Which would be better for my application to start and would .22 gap be appropriate?
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What turbo are you using Speed Junkee? Compression?

Projected power?
Old 10-31-2014, 10:31 PM
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how about 900+ wheel on pumpgas and meth with a projected tip lol
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
What turbo are you using Speed Junkee? Compression?

Projected power?
Turbo plan is the S400 96mm turbine with the 84mm compressor wheel 1.10 T6 flange. CR is 8.8:1 as mentioned in my earlier post. Goal is 1,000 at the wheels with the T-56.
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I'm running tr6s at .025 on 93 and 9 psi
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I have a set of TR6's @ .022 and with 12-16psi I can see the heat mark on the strap is past the bend...and I barely stay in boost around here. BR7's are next.
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
Ron can you tell me more about the cut-back strap? I had to bend the strap on the TR6's to achieve a .022 gap and the strap curves too much to do this for my tastes. Does the "cut-back" strap stay a bit more squared-up to the electrode?
Pretty common practice in the race world if you do a google search. All the autolite racing plugs have a cutback ground strap and are "side gapped". This basically just gives you a shorter ground strap so it will act like less of a glow plug in extreme heat.

Side gapped recessed plug VS a standard protruding plug (and no those aren't my mangled fingers )





Autolite AR474 "racing plugs" are what I would run for most 20+psi LS motors. If I didn't need a resisted plug I'd be running them. Best performance plug for the money IMO. They are an "8" heat range on the NGK scale. Also have a "special" electrode material. My local parts stores could order these cheaper than summit/jegs.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/frm-ar474

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These plugs seem to be a gasketed, resisted, 8 heat range from NGK. Anyone see a reason these wouldn't work for us guys needed a resisted plug?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6x-NGK-Coppe...-/231063736637

Rock auto has them under $3.

https://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,cat...,NGK_5430.html
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The one I'm running is in the middle.
TR6 left, BR7 right.

Not side gapped, but just cut back about half way across the center electrode.

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Not trying to change anyone's mind. Just for info. I'd have preferred resistor. Just to be safe.

Ron
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
The one I'm running is in the middle.
TR6 left, BR7 right.

Not side gapped, but just cut back about half way across the center electrode.



Not trying to change anyone's mind. Just for info. I'd have preferred resistor. Just to be safe.

Ron
Pretty interesting as the TR6 is even more projected than the plug your running Ron.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
These plugs seem to be a gasketed, resisted, 8 heat range from NGK. Anyone see a reason these wouldn't work for us guys needed a resisted plug?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6x-NGK-Coppe...-/231063736637

Rock auto has them under $3.

https://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,cat...,NGK_5430.html
I am interested in knowing also. Did a search and see that norbs over at turbobuick.com uses them but that doesn' tell us anything about how they would run in our engines.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Pretty common practice in the race world if you do a google search. All the autolite racing plugs have a cutback ground strap and are "side gapped". This basically just gives you a shorter ground strap so it will act like less of a glow plug in extreme heat.

Side gapped recessed plug VS a standard protruding plug (and no those aren't my mangled fingers )





Autolite AR474 "racing plugs" are what I would run for most 20+psi LS motors. If I didn't need a resisted plug I'd be running them. Best performance plug for the money IMO. They are an "8" heat range on the NGK scale. Also have a "special" electrode material. My local parts stores could order these cheaper than summit/jegs.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/frm-ar474
I need the gasketed plug because I'll be running AFR heads. This will be for an LT1, not an LS1. Not sure if it would make a difference.

I just need to find a good plug for my application. I was hoping Martin from Tuck would have chimed back in with me by now.
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Speed Junkee, if you saw the LT1 we built that makes 900rwhp with TEA/TFS LT4 heads we run a 8 heat range plug in that motor.

If you are shooting for 1000rwhp with 8.8:1 compression a 8 heat range plug should also work for your usage. That said, you may find that if you read a fresh set of plugs that were shut off at the end of a run/pull that you could end up needing a 9 heat range plug.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Speed Junkee, if you saw the LT1 we built that makes 900rwhp with TEA/TFS LT4 heads we run a 8 heat range plug in that motor.

If you are shooting for 1000rwhp with 8.8:1 compression a 8 heat range plug should also work for your usage. That said, you may find that if you read a fresh set of plugs that were shut off at the end of a run/pull that you could end up needing a 9 heat range plug.
That sounds good. My question is what Autolite plug is that though?
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Here is a great thread/sticky that shows a reference chart between the different manufacturers and their respective plug selections.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...o-read-me.html
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Here is a great thread/sticky that shows a reference chart between the different manufacturers and their respective plug selections.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...o-read-me.html
Martin, not sure if you saw what I posted earlier or not. I already cross referenced.

Autolite Spark plug

NGK 5671A-8 is Autolite 2614
NGK 5671A-9 is Autolite 2612

I just wanted to verify this with you and get a confirmation that I should indeed try the Autolite 2624 first, and then try the 2612 as you mentioned for appropriate heat range.
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2614 or 2624?
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
2614 or 2624?
Are you asking me? I was asking for verification these were the correct plugs cross referenced to the NGK's.


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