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Here is the idea...i have an LS6 that i want to turbo...i have the ebay kit with a t4 60mm turbo and a 3" intercooler...i also have a t6 108mm turbo...i was thinking about installing the ebay kit and the t4 60mm turbo the way it would normally...then run the cold side of the t4 through the intercooler then into the hot side of the t6 to spool the larger turbo...then run the cold side of the t6 into the motor...and the hot side of the larger turbo as just a down pipe???? i know this may seem crazy and really weird..but im curious if the theory will work and if anyone has seen any setup like this before...
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sounds like reverse compounding to me. using the small turbo to spool the big one? most ppl use the big one to do all the work and then the little one compresses the air further
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Running turbo's in series is done on the diesel trucks all the time (some come from the factory this way). If you want to see how it should be connected up, then look up the diesel trucks.

Exhaust gas should boost the small first, then bypass into the larger one.

I don't think you can run enough boost on these cars to justify that kind of setup though...unless you just want to do something fun.
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Originally Posted by NoGo
Running turbo's in series is done on the diesel trucks all the time (some come from the factory this way). If you want to see how it should be connected up, then look up the diesel trucks.

Exhaust gas should boost the small first, then bypass into the larger one.

I don't think you can run enough boost on these cars to justify that kind of setup though...unless you just want to do something fun.
If that's the case just swap in a cummins or duramax and call it done? Be sure to put lift kit in front for weight compensation lol.
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Originally Posted by 2002SLPSSCAMARO
Here is the idea...i have an LS6 that i want to turbo...i have the ebay kit with a t4 60mm turbo and a 3" intercooler...i also have a t6 108mm turbo...i was thinking about installing the ebay kit and the t4 60mm turbo the way it would normally...then run the cold side of the t4 through the intercooler then into the hot side of the t6 to spool the larger turbo...then run the cold side of the t6 into the motor...and the hot side of the larger turbo as just a down pipe???? i know this may seem crazy and really weird..but im curious if the theory will work and if anyone has seen any setup like this before...
why would you have compressor air pushing the turbine of a much larger turbo? compound setups plumb both turbines into the exhaust but use a gate to direct the gases to each turbine at a given time. you should probably delete this thread before you get lots of pms making fun of ya.
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im not worried about people making fun of me at all...im not very knoweldgible about this kind of setup...which is y i asked for some help...this was a learning process and i have already got some insight..and any more that comes in will only help further...for the others that gave some useful info...thanks
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Me6yWApzY ...... ok guys...this is amazing..even for a ricer lol this is what i was looking for...watch the video...then think of doing that with an LS motor...the power could be through the roof...
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Originally Posted by 2002SLPSSCAMARO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Me6yWApzY ...... ok guys...this is amazing..even for a ricer lol this is what i was looking for...watch the video...then think of doing that with an LS motor...the power could be through the roof...
That is amazing and it should be possible on an LS.
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Holy piping batman, it'd be sick though!!!!!
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Orrrrr just run only the large turbo on our motors. The v8 doesn't have trouble spooling like the 4s and 6 cylinder guys.
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i dont think "ricer" would be a word i would use about streetfighter.....
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I wouldn't consider anything like this unless you have a manual car and intend to make more then 800-900 HP or so. IMO, less then that you can get a non-laggy single turbo setup. More then that I feel even the V8 turbo setups (on a manual) can start to get a little pudgy on the street - and may benefit from some sort of spooling advantage.
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i thought about this. A nice little T70 up fornt piping into a BIG T6 at the rear.You could rig it up torun as a sequntial setup if you wanted (somewhat better than compound boosting if you are not running MASSIVE boost). Whichever way, compound or sequential, you would need ALOT of weastgate on the front turbo.

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That's great and all but where will you put a 106? Rear mount?
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The diesel guys do this all the time. Check this duramax, its a 95mm feeding a 71.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=382155
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Just run one correct sized turbo. Don't reinvent the wheel.
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Originally Posted by skyhighsami
That's great and all but where will you put a 106? Rear mount?
Yeah why not? you would have to worry about the lag so it wouldn't really matter where you put it!


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Originally Posted by MUSTANGBRKR02
Just run one correct sized turbo. Don't reinvent the wheel.
Clearly BMW totally F**ked up with their sequential turbo deisel and petrol engines then! Oh wait no they didn't!
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
Clearly BMW totally F**ked up with their sequential turbo deisel and petrol engines then! Oh wait no they didn't!
Clearly this isn't a BMW. If you can achieve the same results with one then why complicate ****? Especially reading the OP's knowledge of things at this given time?
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Your main concern would be space. Good luck fitting two turbos of that size under the engine bay with all of the additional piping. It is an awesome idea, but an idea only. Speed tried to do it a long time ago, but never got it to work. Here's the thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...bo-system.html

I think now with the spool valves being out you can basically have the same kind of performance with a lot easier fit.


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