Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

BEST TRANS for turbo build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 1, 2010 | 10:52 AM
  #81  
itsback08's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
From: USA
Default

looks like i'll be saving up some more $$ seems to me the 4l80e is about the best to get for a street/strip car. well and if you have deep pockets....

next to find what gear to used and converter...

98Z28CobraKiller ill look into FTI converter's have no idea what stall
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2010 | 03:04 PM
  #82  
SIC LSX's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,353
Likes: 2
From: Bossier city,LA barksdale AFB
Default

Originally Posted by itsback08
haha dont want a glid as this is a street car not a full on track car
i always think this is funny when i see it sorry. everyone acts like it a th350 or th400 without 3rd so it like driving around in 2nd gear and its not.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 05:37 PM
  #83  
Jake's Performance's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,774
Likes: 24
Default

I just wanted to point out that we've made the 4L80E affordable.
Our 4L80E with transbrake and shipping is less than $2400 right now.

So there is no reason to give up the overdrive in a street/strip car.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 05:52 PM
  #84  
kmracer's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 0
From: Washington DC
Default

theres no need for a overdrive trans in a turbo car. you should be running a low (numerically) gear anyways. if you are, you wont have a problem on the freeway. the same goes with the converter, its going to be a tight converter.


and lets not forget the price of a converter for the 4l80e...
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 06:09 PM
  #85  
Jake's Performance's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,774
Likes: 24
Default

Originally Posted by kmracer
theres no need for a overdrive trans in a turbo car. you should be running a low (numerically) gear anyways. if you are, you wont have a problem on the freeway. the same goes with the converter, its going to be a tight converter.


and lets not forget the price of a converter for the 4l80e...
I've got plenty of customers who would disagree, they like the OD.

A 4L80E converter costs the same as an equivalent 4L60E converter.

We have large clutch billet converters for $800.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 06:38 PM
  #86  
kmracer's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 0
From: Washington DC
Default

with the added weight, cost, rotating mass, i'd stick with a glide or th400. thats just me, maybe im crazy.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:17 PM
  #87  
LS1NOVA's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,269
Likes: 12
From: Minneapolis,MN
Default

If you actually have a turbo STREET car you will appreciate that OD when your cruising the interstate or city freeways at 80mph and not spinning 3500 rpm even with shallow 3-3.50 gears. I have 3.42's and really like that extra gear. Good converters all cost a lot.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:13 PM
  #88  
Jake's Performance's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,774
Likes: 24
Default

Originally Posted by kmracer
with the added weight, cost, rotating mass, i'd stick with a glide or th400. thats just me, maybe im crazy.
The 4L80E will not cost much if any more than a properly setup Powerglide when you get into the bigger power combos. A Glide needs quite a few parts, in some case ALL new parts to be reliable.

The weight and rotating mass doesn't really play into a car until well into the 10's, and the 1st gear ratio of the 4L80E or TH400 will work better than the Glide in anything slower than a low 10 second car, especially when running 3.xx rear ratio.

The 3.xx rear ratios also lessen the amount of powr consumed by the heavier internals of a TH400 or 4L80E vs. a glide.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:15 PM
  #89  
Jake's Performance's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,774
Likes: 24
Default

Originally Posted by LS1NOVA
If you actually have a turbo STREET car you will appreciate that OD when your cruising the interstate or city freeways at 80mph and not spinning 3500 rpm even with shallow 3-3.50 gears. I have 3.42's and really like that extra gear. Good converters all cost a lot.
Agreed. 3.42 ratio is a good all around ratio, but with a 26-27" tall tire, you will be spinning the engine on a street car at freeway speeds. OK if it's just used to drive to and from the track.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 09:41 PM
  #90  
kmracer's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 0
From: Washington DC
Default

since the thread is about a turbo car, a gear ratio is 3.08-3.25:1 would be best. @81 mph, with a 3.08 and a 28" tire the car would be turning roughly 3000rpm which is pretty comfortable IMO. thats one of the beautiful things about a turbo setup, they're happier with a tightish converter, and a shallow gear. and a glide might not be cheap, but a th400 can be built fairly cheap. but turbo cars LOVE the glide. i've read guys going from 9.3 to an 8.7 with a glide from a th400, and nothing else. that might be because of a poor suspension setup, but a glide is generally a calmer leaving, milder trans.

for most of us, we're not grandmas. we're not prissy brits in bmw's drinking tea. do you have a cup holder in your car? i dont...
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 11:11 PM
  #91  
HydroStream6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,273
Likes: 3
From: Rochester, NY
Default

You gotta remember there's people on here with cars that are not Fbods as well. And who street drive a lot. I cannot put a 28" tire on my car without a good amount of work. Gear options lower than the stock 3.46 are pretty much impossible to get. Not saying my car wouldn't be faster with a different trans, but for a 90% street car, I love having OD.

Also a good number of the fastest true street cars on here run 80s. Mightymouse goes mid 8s and drives to the track.

And I got two cup holders. Gotta have a place for my Starbucks while I'm making some 10s passes...
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 09:28 AM
  #92  
enginjoe's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 679
Likes: 1
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

I'm keeping my cup holders, thanks.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 10:28 AM
  #93  
rotary1307cc's Avatar
8 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,790
Likes: 125
Default

Originally Posted by kmracer
since the thread is about a turbo car, a gear ratio is 3.08-3.25:1 would be best. @81 mph, with a 3.08 and a 28" tire the car would be turning roughly 3000rpm which is pretty comfortable IMO. thats one of the beautiful things about a turbo setup, they're happier with a tightish converter, and a shallow gear. and a glide might not be cheap, but a th400 can be built fairly cheap. but turbo cars LOVE the glide. i've read guys going from 9.3 to an 8.7 with a glide from a th400, and nothing else. that might be because of a poor suspension setup, but a glide is generally a calmer leaving, milder trans.

for most of us, we're not grandmas. we're not prissy brits in bmw's drinking tea. do you have a cup holder in your car? i dont...

yep I agree, the gears and converter are working in your favor for street habits with a a turbo car

Nothing against the 80e, i can see its place in full weight cars

I am 2700lbs and with a tight stall, low gear, and no lockup it goes down the highway great

you could just about have two PG's sitting side by side and weigh the same as one 80e


oh 60e
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 10:46 AM
  #94  
MUSTANGBRKR02's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (91)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,599
Likes: 5
From: Maine
Default

I have a th400 and i will be going back to a 4l80e eventually. Nothing beats a OD when driving around.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 11:16 AM
  #95  
GueSS Who's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,195
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by kmracer
since the thread is about a turbo car, a gear ratio is 3.08-3.25:1 would be best. @81 mph, with a 3.08 and a 28" tire the car would be turning roughly 3000rpm which is pretty comfortable IMO. thats one of the beautiful things about a turbo setup, they're happier with a tightish converter, and a shallow gear. and a glide might not be cheap, but a th400 can be built fairly cheap. but turbo cars LOVE the glide. i've read guys going from 9.3 to an 8.7 with a glide from a th400, and nothing else. that might be because of a poor suspension setup, but a glide is generally a calmer leaving, milder trans.

for most of us, we're not grandmas. we're not prissy brits in bmw's drinking tea. do you have a cup holder in your car? i dont...
All about the combo. Probably not the suspension, but more the converter. If they used the same one it will be more favorable to one or the other. If the same converter was not used, who knows how far it is off.....I have used over drived trans along with my daily driver having a 3 speed and 2 speed. I drove it everywhere like that it is was not all that fun but my only car. It ran 5s in the 1/8 mile as a daily driven street car.

I try and do things one time now that I have learned some things. If you get a OD with anything over 800rwhp you will regret it and more then likely end up switching it out later. If you do the TH400 you will have to freshen the trans up every so often but it more then likely won't brake.


All things aside. If you have a 2-3 speed you need a big tranny cooler. Don't mess around with this if you intend on driving on the street alot.

just my 2 cents.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 04:49 PM
  #96  
slow67's Avatar
Gingervitis Addict
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 3
From: DFW
Default

Well remember that the 4L80 is quite literally a th400 with overdrive and lockup, so handling the power is not a problem (Jake has a couple of mods for 4L80s coming out that should let it hold 2000hp).
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2010 | 07:03 PM
  #97  
kmracer's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 0
From: Washington DC
Default

lol @ the cup holder comments.

i agree, the 80e is a tough trans, and lock up and OD are nice, but not my style.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2011 | 06:26 PM
  #98  
Frametwista's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: Detroit,MI
Default

I'm with u on the glide if i wanted fuel economy and turning low rpms i wouldn't be building a 850+hp car.i know there r trade offs with everything unless u r rich.I'm not so ill do me a glide or 400 with mega hp and leave cruising at 80 on the xway @600rpms to the electric cars.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:51 AM
  #99  
1badWS6's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 905
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Damn this thread just made my decision a lot harder now...
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 10:18 AM
  #100  
MIGHTYMOUSE's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (59)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,018
Likes: 51
From: Virginia
Default

i have no regrets with my 80 investment.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE