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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Default What block prep for the high HP 347's?

I know some of the guys here, Harlan, Kyle, Dare I say PSJ?, have pushed the LS1 Aluminum block far. What kind of block prep was done to them?

Iron and Ls2 answers need not apply


Block Fill?
Pinned mains?
Billet caps?
Girdle?
etc...


Thinking of putting a 88 or gt91 on the car for next year.

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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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what kind of power are you looking to make?

im thinking about making big power..... one day
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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what kind of power are you looking to make?

im thinking about making big power..... one day

I don't want to make quite what you do.


only like 800 to 1000.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 4bangermustang
I don't want to make quite what you do.


only like 800 to 1000.
lol... i make only 229
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Yfs7t8zS4

I would run that block as is
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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no one uses poor little ls1's anymore?
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FANTAZ28
lol... i make only 229
that vid = funny
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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half fill. head studs. main studs with pinned mains. and a girdle. should support around 1k
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Machining costs can add up quickly. Main studs require line boring. Probably need to deck block and hone as well. Doweling mains more $$ and girdle & billet caps even more.

For the money, ERL's Superdeck treatment for an LS1 looks like a pretty good buy. Bigger bore, durable sleeves, billet caps, studs..... While not cheap, like most things in life you get what you pay for.

There probably is a big difference in what you should do between 800 and 1000 hp. 800 can probably live a long time with studs, line boring and quality build. Going to 1000 hp I'd think you want to spend more $$ for durability.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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standard ARP head studs and main studs is all i ever used
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by y2khawk
standard ARP head studs and main studs is all i ever used
thats what i was trying to say! i use an iron block but for 1k hp nothing else is needed.

People need to stop reinventing the wheel.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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No matter what is done to a LS1 5.7 aluminum block, they crack sleeves and/or deck etc or sleeves distort after many passes. Installing Darton sleeves would fix that, at an exponential price.

Iron block.

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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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I've never seen an ls1 block crack or brake at 1000rwhp...

But im not the "expert"
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FANTAZ28
I've never seen an ls1 block crack or brake at 1000rwhp...
Now you have





The bores crack or the head bolt holes, perhaps if detonated. People change heads don't clean coolant out the head bolt holes, cracks side of the block.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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so you can prove that the bores cracked due to much power?

and it cracked the outside head bolt area due to power or is it from coolant? becaues one point you state that they crack at 1000hp then you show a pic where you say it cracked due to coolant? so which one is it?

psj making 900rwhp for years mustve got super lucky! and harlan must've went 8.29 on only 800rwhp!

LOL
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FANTAZ28
so you can prove that the bores cracked due to much power?
Detonation most likely, with FI more chances for detonation. Iron blocks have shown to not crack as often when detonated.

Originally Posted by FANTAZ28
and it cracked the outside head bolt area due to power or is it from coolant?
I stated why they crack in the head bolt hole, no relation to power, it becomes difficult to find an LS1 core when many are cracked.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
Detonation most likely, with FI more chances for detonation. Iron blocks have shown to not crack as often when detonated.

I stated why they crack in the head bolt hole, no relation to power, it becomes difficult to find an LS1 core when many are cracked.

if the motor that u posted with the cracked sleeve had been filled, wouldnt that mean less expansion in the wall and prevent it to crack???
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Old Nov 6, 2015 | 04:08 AM
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just for the future searchers:

sorry to bring this post back from the dead but the first pic AES used is mine and was not the subject of the power limits of the block. I'm guessing they stole the pic from somewhere and just took it for what it was worth. It was a lowly 01 ls1 block with too much boost and timing with not enough fuel. Not saying the ls1 block is strong enough, just that back in the day, it did well. Overspun D1SC north of 800rwhp.

the second pic is not related to my block at all. It's amazing what happens to your pictures once they go on the internet.
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Old Nov 6, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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LOL, I guess everything ive read about them is true
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