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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Drove car to school the other week with no boost. Pulled into parking spot and motor sounded like it stalled out while I was turning steering wheel so I thought no big deal. Tried starting it and it was turning over really weak so I just left it and went to class. Come back a few hours later and crank the car and it turns over 5-7 times strong and then just stopped, engine never fired. Towed it home and have it torn down. Unable to turn motor over by crank bolt in either direction. All accessories and transmission are removed. Plugs weren't damaged and radiator wasn't down on fluid. Car made no crazy noises when all this happened.

About to pull motor but engine mount bolts and seized too so it will have to wait until tomorrow.

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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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poss main bearings or a piston ?
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Do you have an oil pressure gauge? Oil pump couldve failed and you had no idea as you drove in to school.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Damn thats fucked up..I followed your build up and your car was my deciding factor to go 347 with a d1sc. I agree with an earlier post did you happen to glance at your oil pressure. I think the pump might have taken a dump. What type of pump were you running.
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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I always keep an eye on gauges, it had at least 50 psi of oil pressure at idle. There were no copper shavings in oil.
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Trash in the fuel line can cause this as well. Did you ever run it out of fuel?
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Originally Posted by Texas-Firehawk
Trash in the fuel line can cause this as well. Did you ever run it out of fuel?
hows that? he'd need a healthy handfull of sand and if it did happen to have sand/debris in the tank, the pump would probably fail first.
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how many miles on the motor? what kind of oil in it?
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Originally Posted by Texas-Firehawk
Trash in the fuel line can cause this as well. Did you ever run it out of fuel?
Never ran in less than 1/4 tank

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how many miles on the motor? what kind of oil in it?
About 20k miles. Has Mobil 1 10w-30 and changed it every 3k miles.



Going out to the garage to pull motor and tear it down
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Well that sucks. Possiblr that the clearances were to tight?
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Just got motor out and don't see anything wrong yet. Going to tear it down shortly.

No idea on clearances, but EPP built the motor awhile ago and it has about 20k miles with a maxed out D1SC so who knows.
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check the gas to see if theres water in it, a guy here in houston got a few gallons of C16 that turned out to me mostly water, bye bye motor while idleing about 2 minutes later
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No evidence of failure, but you can't turn the crank in either direction. That's odd.
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Did you try to spin it yet without the plugs in there? May have hydralocked it.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Did you try to spin it yet without the plugs in there? May have hydralocked it.
It is a shortblock with pan and it wont budge in either direction.

Heading out to the garage to pull the pan.
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i know this is gonna sound a bit unbelievable but i had a rod in my 98 SS let go and it didnt even make a peep. and oddly enough when i yanked the shortblock it wouldnt move either. i pulled the pan and the rod was wedged against the wall. didnt even put a hole in it or anything. lets hope you find it and it's an easy fix. the rings may be too tight and got siezed up. not sure though usually the ring land will break when it's too tight.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Sucks! Post pics of what you find.
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Motor is fine!!

Whatever oil pump EPP upgraded it to locked up. Good thing it crapped out while cranking! Got lucky
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