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Old 04-30-2012, 08:19 AM
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Are those AES heads as well? If so can we get picks of ports?
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Yes they are there ported 317 heads
Old 04-30-2012, 02:32 PM
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Here's what i took from the day it arrived,


sorry i don't have any close up pics of the port work. see if i can get some.
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All in all motor looked great, will post a video within the next few weeks when i get car back, so we can see how the 390 does with 15 psi going thru it oh yeah...

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I should have my car sometime this week. I went with AES 317 heads as well. I paid for head studs so I really hope that's what I have. What pulley combo will you be running?
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Not sure josh at Lashway is doing the tuning they also ordered the kit I told them my hp goal.
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Cool!
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
Brandon

This is all I charged you for on the head studs, if I charge $.01 higher then that price i'm told i'm overcharging.
http://www.kurturbanperformance.com/...-stud-k12.html

So I used ARP 8mm bolts on the top row, you would have to stretch the 1/2" head studs to touch those bolts.

We've gone 7.60 with 8mm bolts on the top row so I figured that would be good enough for you?
I didn't know there was a concern with the top bolts, the stock torque spec is only like 22lb's.

My only issue with the 1/2" head studs is there a little taller or maybe not as deep in the block so I had to clearance the turbo header flange. Small price to pay for the job they do.
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I've got about 100 miles on my new 390, I've done a couple 5lb 4400rpm pulls checking fueling and timing, checking for leaks, loose fastners, etc.

no.1 I'm really surprised how much faster this engine revs compared to the 408 I took out.

no.2 After about 1hr of run time, idling, driving, changing oil and stuff like that you could noticable see the difference in how well the engine sealed up. I have breathers on the valve covers so it's easy to tell how much blow by there is or isn't.

no.3 I'm not going to go on about how great the engine is or compare AES to other builders, I'm just going to say that when you buy a shortblock and install it and you have that nervous feeling as your getting ready to fire it? The engine fired and ran exactly as you hope for when your getting ready to turn the key.
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No offense meant in anyway about the head studs all is good.
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Motor should be crazy sick once everything is done.
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And I like that you guys are using the ls9 head gaskets as well. How much do you think max can I run before heads lift?
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Originally Posted by +badss+
Sorry max boost
boost isn't a very good measurement when it comes to engine strength. A 390 with a GT91 turbo and good flowing heads will break the engine at a lower boost number then say a TC76 turbo with stock heads.
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Originally Posted by mike13
I've got about 100 miles on my new 390, I've done a couple 5lb 4400rpm pulls checking fueling and timing, checking for leaks, loose fastners, etc.

no.1 I'm really surprised how much faster this engine revs compared to the 408 I took out.

no.2 After about 1hr of run time, idling, driving, changing oil and stuff like that you could noticable see the difference in how well the engine sealed up. I have breathers on the valve covers so it's easy to tell how much blow by there is or isn't.

no.3 I'm not going to go on about how great the engine is or compare AES to other builders, I'm just going to say that when you buy a shortblock and install it and you have that nervous feeling as your getting ready to fire it? The engine fired and ran exactly as you hope for when your getting ready to turn the key.
Lot has changed in the past few years in terms of piston rings, back 5-7 years ago everyone used reverse twist taper faced 2nd ring, engines drank oil. Using a napier 2nd ring has cut down many oil consumption issues. On top of it I think we use the right prep for steel rings. Let me know how it goes when you turn it up Keith.
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Originally Posted by mike13
boost isn't a very good measurement when it comes to engine strength. A 390 with a GT91 turbo and good flowing heads will break the engine at a lower boost number then say a TC76 turbo with stock heads.
Finally someone said it, boost is a measurement of restriction. Sure it will correlate to a cfm number, but that is unique to every compressor map.

I had a guy who "owned a shop" buy an engine from us, asked "is this engine good for 30psi?" I said I don't rate engines by boost, I think power level is more accurate. So he tried to rephrase and to ask once again "will it be ok at 30psi though?" Didn't even know which head unit he was going to use.

Whats the answer, far as I know 1200hp when the trouble starts, with 4 bolt heads. No matter how many O rings it has. With a blower i'm sure it would be around 900rwhp area to make 1200hp, you have drivetrain loss, and loss in turning the blower.
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
Finally someone said it, boost is a measurement of restriction. Sure it will correlate to a cfm number, but that is unique to every compressor map.

I had a guy who "owned a shop" buy an engine from us, asked "is this engine good for 30psi?" I said I don't rate engines by boost, I think power level is more accurate. So he tried to rephrase and to ask once again "will it be ok at 30psi though?" Didn't even know which head unit he was going to use.

Whats the answer, far as I know 1200hp when the trouble starts, with 4 bolt heads. No matter how many O rings it has. With a blower i'm sure it would be around 900rwhp area to make 1200hp, you have drivetrain loss, and loss in turning the blower.
Fraser,

Well... the 390 you built me, pulled ~1150RWHP on the dyno.. and yesterday it ran an 9.40 @ 151.9mph (over 3800lbs).... I say its a good engine!!!
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Originally Posted by +badss+
Here's what i took from the day it arrived,


sorry i don't have any close up pics of the port work. see if i can get some.
appreciate the pics. I am hoping that they will send me a few of mine soon to add to my build thread. said they needed to wash it etc.....waiting now.........I wonder how the 317's will compare the the PRC's. I hear the 317's are a great head. I hope my heads are not just a gimmick. Guess if i had some flow charts I could fine out.....plus, I am not sure if 317's have a .750+ deck. im doing that plus the 1/2 inch studs to keep em down. I am hoping for 750-800 from my lil D1. should hopefully be a safe hp for this setup.
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
plus, I am not sure if 317's have a .750+ deck.
If I recall, last I checked with sonic gauge they were .484" , same as rest of LS heads 241, 243 etc.
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
If I recall, last I checked with sonic gauge they were .484" , same as rest of LS heads 241, 243 etc.
Didn't realize there was that much difference compared to the aftermarket thick deck heads.
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Originally Posted by mike13
Didn't realize there was that much difference compared to the aftermarket thick deck heads.

big difference


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