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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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I posted this in another section with not alot of response...but, I am going to be making the switch to E85 and I am wondering what plugs you boosted guys are running with E85. I am currently running TR6's at about 550 rwhp on gas and I am hoping to be around the mid 700 number on high boost. Just wondering what people are running and what type of power level. I would figure on gas I would be around a TR7 or 8 with 750 rwhp. Also, projected or non projected tip. Thanks!!
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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I run a non-projected 7 up to 800, and then a 8 to 1000, with a intercooled 9-10:1 LS on E85.

My DD runs a tr6 with 600+hp on E85 365 days a year.
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I still used TR6's @ 831 rwhp. This was on 93 and meth. Never any issues. They were gapped at .030

I think that TR7s are to cold on pump gas and E85 for the power level you are wanting.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by greatwhitess
I still used TR6's @ 831 rwhp. This was on 93 and meth. Never any issues. They were gapped at .030

I think that TR7s are to cold on pump gas and E85 for the power level you are wanting.

You're lucky. 7 or 8 isn't to cold. Just need the tune spot on.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Interesting
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Thank you guys for the info.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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A 7 or 8 heat range plug is anything but too cold at 800 rwhp especially on E85. I would personally run a non-projected 8 heat range NGK or Autolite plug at that power level on E85 as it's fairly susceptible to pre-ignition.
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Thanks Nic for the input. I am getting excited to give this new setup up a try!
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Originally Posted by TurboAv
You're lucky. 7 or 8 isn't to cold. Just need the tune spot on.
I have tuned a few other cars in the upper 700 range that are running TR6 and no problems. I have a 2 in the 900's that are running 7's, one is on race gas and the other on meth.

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Originally Posted by greatwhitess
I have tuned a few other cars in the upper 700 range that are running TR6 and no problems. I have a 2 in the 900's that are running 7's, one is on race gas and the other on meth.
Congrats, but just because you and several others have gotten away with it doesn't mean that there isn't a better and safer choice. A TR6 is not the wisest choice at that power level.
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Congrats, but just because you and several others have gotten away with it doesn't mean that there isn't a better and safer choice. A TR6 is not the wisest choice at that power level.
I don't see why people are scared to run a colder plug... On a boosted car you aren't losing/gaining any real power by going from a 6 to 7 or even an 8 with the proper gap/
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I'm running a -9 non projection tip plug with E85/E98 (960 rwhp the last time on the dyno w/ E98). No issues on the street with plug fouling/cold starts on E85.
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Very good info in here.
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:19 PM
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br7ef plugs stock no is 3346 They are awesome and work great. We use these in the ford mod motors too. Just made 1210rwhp with these plugs on e85 yesterday.
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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I am using tr6 900rwhp and e85.
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Here is another insightful view.

"I found this to be true in engines that have too lean of A/F mix, In some cases where the proper modifications were not done.

A lean A/F mix, could tend to lead into pre-ignition as it does not have enough fuel to control the combustion temps....often resulting in a loss of power as well.

With proper A/F mix and plug combination the engine maintains a relativly consistant combustion temprature, and Pre-ignition does not exist.

Add the fuel mix needed and a cold plug could actually allow the fuel to extinguish itself before complete combustion is completed, resulting in loss of power.

I believe that in a properly tuned A/F mix, An engine with a hotter plug will be required to maintiain the heat of the chamber to completely burn the A/F mix.....thus producing more torque and power.


And dont be afraid to give it some ignition timing...


Mark Sullens,
www.marksullense85carburetors.com "

Thread here: http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=306139
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It has been proven over and over again, that running a colder results in ZERO power loss. Back to back dyno pulls have been done with swapping plugs with ZERO power loss. Why risk it?
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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whats the part number when going to non projected?
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NGK 8's here with ~1000rwhp and E85 out of the pump.
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BR7EF at 800rwhp, a few pulls at 1100+
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