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Old May 25, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Ive been thinking of switching over to E85. Procharged @15psi. Ive got the fuel system to support it. Car put down 780rwhp last time on the dyno in the summer. Ive got Lonnies dual pump system, lines, rails, etc., along with 95lb injectors. Just wanted some insight about it and would the swap be worth it. Thanks.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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If you have the fuel system to support it and its readily available in your area, DO IT!

If E85 was available in Alaska I would have made the attempt to switch over.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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It would only make sense to switch over if you pullied up and were running above 20psi. Anything less and you can run pump gas and meth injection. E85 gets horrible mileage with FI cars/bikes. Ask me how I know...
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Old May 25, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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People around here swear by it. If your fuel system can do it, do it, but I don't think 95lb injectors will be enough for E.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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My vote would be run it if it's readily available. I've been running E85 for several years on the street. Price wise it's about the same as running premium in my area when you take into account the decrease in mileage. You should be ok with your fuel system at your current boost level. I was running 96s at a base fuel pressure of 50 psi, and would see 80% duty cycle at 800 rwhp on E85 at 0.78 Lambda (11.5 afr on gas scale). If you turn the boost up any more you'll need some 120s and possibly more pump.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Jon @ FIC said that the 95s would support that power level on E85. I really dont drive the car around that much anymore so the mileage wouldnt really matter, plus I dont have a meth kit on the car. I really want to eventually put one on. Theres an E85 pump at the HEB a mile from my house, that is why I have been thinking about it.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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So if you're already tuned at 15psi on gas, why go through the trouble of having it retuned for e85?
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I swapped out injectors and its running really rich now. Plus it was running a little lean WOT and my injectors were about tapped out.
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Do it. E85 is the way to go if its available. Switching my car to e85 as its $2.79 a gallon here.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 02:14 AM
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I just switched my truck to E85 vs gas/meth and now run at 12psi what I ran before at 14psi. The power gain, and response is ridiculous. A local WRX picked up almost 100RWHP at 28psi switching from C16 to E85. Im at 6000' and the extra oxygen in the E85 is helping things more than it would down low, but the gain still has to be huge. I sure wish I could run my truck on E85 out in Ca...
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Old May 26, 2011 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
It would only make sense to switch over if you pullied up and were running above 20psi. Anything less and you can run pump gas and meth injection. E85 gets horrible mileage with FI cars/bikes. Ask me how I know...
Tune it correctly and it is fine, I got 22mpg in my 8 second car and 18.5mpg in my ltd, both with 3 speeds at ~700rwhp and that is highway/city driving. If you don't get a good tune then ya your mileage will suck.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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E85 made my car seem more crisper. Haven't noticed lower intakes temps yet but i'm told they should drop. I was told 80# injecters should max out around 800hp on 85. Before I switched to 160's i was maxing my 80's out at 7-8psi with a base pressure of 60#.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gsxr1k2
E85 made my car seem more crisper. Haven't noticed lower intakes temps yet but i'm told they should drop. I was told 80# injecters should max out around 800hp on 85. Before I switched to 160's i was maxing my 80's out at 7-8psi with a base pressure of 60#.

80's at 43.5?

What do y'all think dual walbro's and 92lbers at 58psi would be good for? Stock fuel lines.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by slowlsx
80's at 43.5?

What do y'all think dual walbro's and 92lbers at 58psi would be good for? Stock fuel lines.
The stock fuel lines will be your limiting factor in that system.
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
So if you're already tuned at 15psi on gas, why go through the trouble of having it retuned for e85?
If it was properly tuned on pump gas he can switch it over to e85 by changing one value in HPtuners in less than 5 min
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Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
So if you're already tuned at 15psi on gas, why go through the trouble of having it retuned for e85?
Because it would be safer all while producing more power at the same boost level not to mention you could turn it up more? As long as finding E85 isn't an issue, you have the fuel system to support it, and you don't mind the mileage loss I see no reason not to especially on a boosted setup.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by slowlsx
80's at 43.5?

What do y'all think dual walbro's and 92lbers at 58psi would be good for? Stock fuel lines.
Throw some lines on that bad boy and be done! Lonnies told me he has done over 800rwhp with E85 on his dual pump setup.
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Originally Posted by slowlsx
80's at 43.5?

What do y'all think dual walbro's and 92lbers at 58psi would be good for? Stock fuel lines.
Thats what I have with the exception of 60psi base pressure, fast rails and -6 line from rails to firewall.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SERB Z06
If it was properly tuned on pump gas he can switch it over to e85 by changing one value in HPtuners in less than 5 min
And what would that value be....
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SERB Z06
If it was properly tuned on pump gas he can switch it over to e85 by changing one value in HPtuners in less than 5 min
I dont agree with that. When I switched I had to adjust pe and the ve tables quite a bit. I've got a couple hours of tuning into it.
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