Who has the fastest turbo/supercharged f-body with a 6 speed?
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The super fast Supras don't just run the stock Getrags. PPG makes a complete dog-ring gear set for the Getrag. They also make a billet center case. The parts cost stupid money. The gearset is about $8,500 and the center case is $3,500. PPG also make a gear set for the T56 and the fast Viper guys use it. There is also a straight cut gearset that was made for the LPE Camaro by Liberty. I am sure that won't be cheap if it ever makes it to market.
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the 7 second and all of those 8 second 6 speed supras all run the stock Getrag. I have never heard of anyone running anything but the stock trans in the supras.
there is not much to chime in on my car, it ate alot of T56s, all on a roll, I never launched it hard enough at the line, but in 2nd gear once, and several times in third gear, it chewed up the gears/cluster, turns the whole thing into garbage.
the viper guys run the Gforce gear set, without much luck either.
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the 7 second and all of those 8 second 6 speed supras all run the stock Getrag. I have never heard of anyone running anything but the stock trans in the supras.
there is not much to chime in on my car, it ate alot of T56s, all on a roll, I never launched it hard enough at the line, but in 2nd gear once, and several times in third gear, it chewed up the gears/cluster, turns the whole thing into garbage.
the viper guys run the Gforce gear set, without much luck either.
the 7 second and all of those 8 second 6 speed supras all run the stock Getrag. I have never heard of anyone running anything but the stock trans in the supras.
there is not much to chime in on my car, it ate alot of T56s, all on a roll, I never launched it hard enough at the line, but in 2nd gear once, and several times in third gear, it chewed up the gears/cluster, turns the whole thing into garbage.
the viper guys run the Gforce gear set, without much luck either.
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Not everyone agrees with me on this but once I put a pump on my T56 to keep the forward gears lubricated under hard high speed pulls on the interstate I didn't have anymore trans problems.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...h-hp-cars.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...h-hp-cars.html
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The super fast Supras don't just run the stock Getrags. PPG makes a complete dog-ring gear set for the Getrag. They also make a billet center case. The parts cost stupid money. The gearset is about $8,500 and the center case is $3,500. PPG also make a gear set for the T56 and the fast Viper guys use it. There is also a straight cut gearset that was made for the LPE Camaro by Liberty. I am sure that won't be cheap if it ever makes it to market.
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What doesn't make any sense is why PPG has the gear set available and is now selling a mid case. The gear set has been out for a while but the mid case is a newer item. If the stock transmission is so tough, why even go through the trouble of developing these products? It doesn't make any sense.
It takes about 1500 HP (give or take) in a 3000 pound car to get a car below 8 seconds. If memory serves me right the V160 is rated at around 375 lb/ft capacity. This must be the worlds most underrated and over engineered transmission in the world. If that is the case, why isn't everyone adapting them to various applications? The V160 has an integral bellhousing, but it wouldn't take much to machine that off and make an adapter to mate with a custom bellhousing. But I have yet to see anyone do that, which is not to say it hasn't been done...
Personally I think there is just a bit of myth surrounding the V160. It seems to leap tall buildings in a single bound, defy the laws of physics, and save the universe from destruction. Sounds like the cult of Toyota is blowing smoke up our collective asses just like they did regarding the supposedly indestructible Supra rear ends, until some people lifted the skirts on some fast cars only to find custom 9" Ford IRS center chunks with massive custom axles.
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Here are the last 3 passes of the 2010 season... stock mainshaft t56 with basic steel 3-4 shift fork, billet key's, carbon blockers, bronze pads etc. The car made over 750lb.ft of torque and 668rwhp on the baby 150 shot it was getting here.
The new setup is gonna be a big single turbo setup with big cubes and a M12 GTO T56. It's getting the SSR mainshaft upgrade done to it as well to help support the power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODpzrTZafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0cqAokKgUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isKYp1pCtfE
The new setup is gonna be a big single turbo setup with big cubes and a M12 GTO T56. It's getting the SSR mainshaft upgrade done to it as well to help support the power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODpzrTZafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0cqAokKgUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isKYp1pCtfE
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Here are the last 3 passes of the 2010 season... stock mainshaft t56 with basic steel 3-4 shift fork, billet key's, carbon blockers, bronze pads etc. The car made over 750lb.ft of torque and 668rwhp on the baby 150 shot it was getting here.
The new setup is gonna be a big single turbo setup with big cubes and a M12 GTO T56. It's getting the SSR mainshaft upgrade done to it as well to help support the power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODpzrTZafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0cqAokKgUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isKYp1pCtfE
The new setup is gonna be a big single turbo setup with big cubes and a M12 GTO T56. It's getting the SSR mainshaft upgrade done to it as well to help support the power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODpzrTZafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0cqAokKgUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isKYp1pCtfE
One question for the m6 guru's...why does it seem that all motor and n20 cars have a better luck keeping these things alive and turning respectable short times? Nitrous is more violent off the hit than any turbo or s/c, yet all the cars I consistently see chopping the tree down, or turning 1.2x-1.3x 60's seem to be motor or n20 cars.
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http://www.mcleodracing.com/info/download.asp?id=5244#
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All the cars in this thread are badass.
I'm surprised you guys aren't looking into the TR6060 though.. Its butter smooth compaired to any stock T56 or Gforce modded T56 I have used. Tougher outta the box. Still on my stock T56 here, only heavy street use has it seen though. Countless powershifts and various power setups. Wouldn't ever want anything other then a manual in the vette or any primary vehicle. Props to the guys that stay manual and get it done.
I'm surprised you guys aren't looking into the TR6060 though.. Its butter smooth compaired to any stock T56 or Gforce modded T56 I have used. Tougher outta the box. Still on my stock T56 here, only heavy street use has it seen though. Countless powershifts and various power setups. Wouldn't ever want anything other then a manual in the vette or any primary vehicle. Props to the guys that stay manual and get it done.
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Not everyone agrees with me on this but once I put a pump on my T56 to keep the forward gears lubricated under hard high speed pulls on the interstate I didn't have anymore trans problems.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...h-hp-cars.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...h-hp-cars.html
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Now that is getting it done.
One question for the m6 guru's...why does it seem that all motor and n20 cars have a better luck keeping these things alive and turning respectable short times? Nitrous is more violent off the hit than any turbo or s/c, yet all the cars I consistently see chopping the tree down, or turning 1.2x-1.3x 60's seem to be motor or n20 cars.
One question for the m6 guru's...why does it seem that all motor and n20 cars have a better luck keeping these things alive and turning respectable short times? Nitrous is more violent off the hit than any turbo or s/c, yet all the cars I consistently see chopping the tree down, or turning 1.2x-1.3x 60's seem to be motor or n20 cars.
Weight probably has a LOT to do with it. Most turbo 6 speed cars are PIGS. If they are building a race car and willing to do some weight reduction they go auto. If they stay 6 speed they want it to be a street car. I think Tiago's car was ~3800lbs IIRC? Correct me if I'm wrong. The extra weight really adds to the abuse.
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But for FI I am unsure.
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Now that is getting it done.
One question for the m6 guru's...why does it seem that all motor and n20 cars have a better luck keeping these things alive and turning respectable short times? Nitrous is more violent off the hit than any turbo or s/c, yet all the cars I consistently see chopping the tree down, or turning 1.2x-1.3x 60's seem to be motor or n20 cars.
One question for the m6 guru's...why does it seem that all motor and n20 cars have a better luck keeping these things alive and turning respectable short times? Nitrous is more violent off the hit than any turbo or s/c, yet all the cars I consistently see chopping the tree down, or turning 1.2x-1.3x 60's seem to be motor or n20 cars.
I'll be able to answer your question more detialed after I get this new setup up and running and to the track.
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Why did PPG develop the gearset?
Stock trans is rated for 375ft-lbs...
Why isn't everybody using the V160 in every swap?
All that said, still take Your grain of salt. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that "stock trans" means the stock gears & shafts were heat/ cryo treated, synchros were triple cone, etc. She's still hot, but she's had surgery.
Regards,
Kurt