Single kit Round 2 Our mission: keep A/C, stock K, & Rad
09-07-2011, 05:31 PM
#41
Keep in mind that even tho you are a badass fabricator/ mechanic, It doesnt make you a certified internet badass which you come off as. Maybe it would help you if you POST more pics of your product. Do you try to keep the fab work some sort of secert? Even in all your other posts, i dont get it?
But like wanted by 'tricked out toy'
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...pics-vids.html
Here in this thread, all that was moved was the battery to the rear. And Delete the factory coolant overflow. Consists of Factory c6 manifold on driver side crossing over to a turbo log type manifold on the passenger side. Even tho in these pics the a/c is not present he has a/c and the kit was built around a factory a/c fbody layout.
Consists of
-T4 flange
-Factory a/c Canister is recommended to be heat wrapped.
-keeps factory fans
-doesnt need to have idler pulley in place of power steering
-doesnt need shorter belt
-keeps power steering in factory location
-keeps alternator in factory location
-keeps a/c compressor/condenser in factory location
-keeps radiator in factory location
-dont have to delete front sway bar
But like wanted by 'tricked out toy'
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...pics-vids.html
Here in this thread, all that was moved was the battery to the rear. And Delete the factory coolant overflow. Consists of Factory c6 manifold on driver side crossing over to a turbo log type manifold on the passenger side. Even tho in these pics the a/c is not present he has a/c and the kit was built around a factory a/c fbody layout.
Consists of
-T4 flange
-Factory a/c Canister is recommended to be heat wrapped.
-keeps factory fans
-doesnt need to have idler pulley in place of power steering
-doesnt need shorter belt
-keeps power steering in factory location
-keeps alternator in factory location
-keeps a/c compressor/condenser in factory location
-keeps radiator in factory location
-dont have to delete front sway bar
09-07-2011, 06:20 PM
#42
I knew that was the car you were referring to.
There's quite a few flaws in that type of system to market to the general public.
Just to mention a few......
Relocating a battery is added time and expense to the project.
Deleting the coolant resevoir isn't recommended on a street car especially with A/C.
Nowhere in that thread shows installed and functioning A/C
Nowhere does it show ground clearance from the crossover either.
There's quite a few flaws in that type of system to market to the general public.
Just to mention a few......
Relocating a battery is added time and expense to the project.
Deleting the coolant resevoir isn't recommended on a street car especially with A/C.
Nowhere in that thread shows installed and functioning A/C
Nowhere does it show ground clearance from the crossover either.
09-07-2011, 06:22 PM
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That's what I have been wanting to do. Figure a way to put turbo where battery goes. Seems like it would be easier to fab a better flowing log, than to design all these relocation pieces u guys are trying.???
Rob and Chris, if you guys could do kit like the above, is be your first buy in!!! That's exactly what I've been looking for. I know yall have a lot of time vested in the current project, so I doubt you will stop and change directions. But surely there would be NO DOUBT the above kit would Sale like hot cakes
Rob and Chris, if you guys could do kit like the above, is be your first buy in!!! That's exactly what I've been looking for. I know yall have a lot of time vested in the current project, so I doubt you will stop and change directions. But surely there would be NO DOUBT the above kit would Sale like hot cakes
09-07-2011, 06:41 PM
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Rob, it was good to talk to you earlier and thanks for the advice about going with a TC78 instead of going with a precision. When will you be cutting the buy in off at this price? Thanks again for the info
09-07-2011, 06:45 PM
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Keep in mind that even tho you are a badass fabricator/ mechanic, It doesnt make you a certified internet badass which you come off as. Maybe it would help you if you POST more pics of your product. Do you try to keep the fab work some sort of secert? Even in all your other posts, i dont get it?
Just saying.
Also the idea of their kit seems to be keeping certain marquee items like the stock K and radiator location to eliminate the BIG jobs associated with a front mount turbo on a 4th gen. Their goal is to sacrifice as little as possible while sacrificing nothing in the way of performance or street friendliness. A kit like the one you posted makes sacrifices to the kit to keep all of the little things.
To me relocating the power steering and alternator is super easy if the kit is including professionally made brackets and mounts that FIT! It's coming up with home made stuff that is annoying and time consuming. I bet you could install all of the relocations sent with this kit in a couple of hours.
I'm in for more development. A good friend of mine has decided to do a 5.3 turbo swap and this kit looks like it will be right up his alley. 550-650whp capable without losing AC or making any irreversible changes.
I need something with a T6 flange to fit a nice 88mm for mine
09-07-2011, 07:16 PM
#46
That's a good price considering what it includes. I spent over $150 on AN fittings and braided hose to run relocated power steering lines and a good bit of time researching just what I needed. I also bought the alternator relocation kit from Modular Turbo, which is included in this kit. Add up all the "extras" you have to figure out yourself and the overhead involved and it gets pricey quick. I wish you all had this going this time last year when I was gathering parts...would have saved me a lot of headaches.
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09-07-2011, 08:22 PM
#48
I knew that was the car you were referring to.
There's quite a few flaws in that type of system to market to the general public.
Just to mention a few......
Relocating a battery is added time and expense to the project.
Deleting the coolant resevoir isn't recommended on a street car especially with A/C.
Nowhere in that thread shows installed and functioning A/C
Nowhere does it show ground clearance from the crossover either.
There's quite a few flaws in that type of system to market to the general public.
Just to mention a few......
Relocating a battery is added time and expense to the project.
Deleting the coolant resevoir isn't recommended on a street car especially with A/C.
Nowhere in that thread shows installed and functioning A/C
Nowhere does it show ground clearance from the crossover either.
relocating battery? that should be everyones first mod, the battery belongs in the back!!!!!!!
the kit works with a/c period.
ground clearance is A+++, the exception is a t56 it has less ground clearance than an auto.
09-07-2011, 08:45 PM
#49
If you really don't want to have to move anything, and want to make upwards of 700+ on a 346, then look into a D1 Procharger. If you want more than that, go F1 and you still don't have to move anything.
Fact is, if you want to go turbo, it requires logistics of moving certain things to get the exhaust up to the turbo, then back to the rear of the car.
Fact is, if you want to go turbo, it requires logistics of moving certain things to get the exhaust up to the turbo, then back to the rear of the car.
09-07-2011, 08:46 PM
#50
Okay here is an Idea.
You guys that want a PT88 kit do this:
Get at least 5 guys together that want one. Each of you give us $2000 and we will make you the baddest PT88 kit we can.
And we will do it like that car in the thread. Well a little bit better than that.
You guys that want a PT88 kit do this:
Get at least 5 guys together that want one. Each of you give us $2000 and we will make you the baddest PT88 kit we can.
And we will do it like that car in the thread. Well a little bit better than that.
09-07-2011, 09:14 PM
#52
If you really don't want to have to move anything, and want to make upwards of 700+ on a 346, then look into a D1 Procharger. If you want more than that, go F1 and you still don't have to move anything.
Fact is, if you want to go turbo, it requires logistics of moving certain things to get the exhaust up to the turbo, then back to the rear of the car.
Fact is, if you want to go turbo, it requires logistics of moving certain things to get the exhaust up to the turbo, then back to the rear of the car.
Our twin turbo kit, doesn't move anything, and it can surpass ANYTHING Procharger offers by a long shot.
09-07-2011, 10:02 PM
#54
I'll just agree to disagree. You're TT kit costs upwards of $10,000 and for that amount of money, I can put in a forged larger cube motor, with an F1 and make upwards of 1000 hp and not have to touch the kmember at all. How much weight does your TT kit add to the nose of the car? I'm not saying it isn't a good kit, but if people want simple, and want power, you can't touch a procharger.
09-08-2011, 03:14 PM
#55
One thing that I don't see is an air filter.
If we built a kit for a large turbo like the PT88 It would make more since
to put a T6 flange on it and set it up for a S400.
By doing this a guy could put a $600 S400 on the kit or upgrade the s400
to a 80 or 88 comp wheel and have a lot better turbo for less money.
The PT88 is a good turbo but for the money the S400 is hands down a better choice.
And with a T6 flange a guy could run PT91 up though a PT106.
Rob and I have talked it over and come up with a compromise.
Have a kit that has a interchangeable "feed tube".
You would have your main "Y" and wast gate mount and the tube coming from the "Y" feeding the turbo would be connected use a V-Band.
This feed pipe would allow for a T4 and a T6 flange turbo to be used.
This way a guy could run a large GTS 76 T4 a T4 PT88 0r any T6 turbo
and the main kit would be the same.
The only draw back to this is the down pipe would have to be finished by the customer.
You would get a down pipe but you will have to weld your flange to it.
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09-08-2011, 03:39 PM
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There are things that I'm not seeing that we would get our heads chopped off for if we left it this way.
One thing that I don't see is an air filter.
If we built a kit for a large turbo like the PT88 It would make more since
to put a T6 flange on it and set it up for a S400.
By doing this a guy could put a $600 S400 on the kit or upgrade the s400
to a 80 or 88 comp wheel and have a lot better turbo for less money.
The PT88 is a good turbo but for the money the S400 is hands down a better choice.
And with a T6 flange a guy could run PT91 up though a PT106.
Rob and I have talked it over and come up with a compromise.
Have a kit that has a interchangeable "feed tube".
You would have your main "Y" and wast gate mount and the tube coming from the "Y" feeding the turbo would be connected use a V-Band.
This feed pipe would allow for a T4 and a T6 flange turbo to be used.
This way a guy could run a large GTS 76 T4 a T4 PT88 0r any T6 turbo
and the main kit would be the same.
The only draw back to this is the down pipe would have to be finished by the customer.
You would get a down pipe but you will have to weld your flange to it.
One thing that I don't see is an air filter.
If we built a kit for a large turbo like the PT88 It would make more since
to put a T6 flange on it and set it up for a S400.
By doing this a guy could put a $600 S400 on the kit or upgrade the s400
to a 80 or 88 comp wheel and have a lot better turbo for less money.
The PT88 is a good turbo but for the money the S400 is hands down a better choice.
And with a T6 flange a guy could run PT91 up though a PT106.
Rob and I have talked it over and come up with a compromise.
Have a kit that has a interchangeable "feed tube".
You would have your main "Y" and wast gate mount and the tube coming from the "Y" feeding the turbo would be connected use a V-Band.
This feed pipe would allow for a T4 and a T6 flange turbo to be used.
This way a guy could run a large GTS 76 T4 a T4 PT88 0r any T6 turbo
and the main kit would be the same.
The only draw back to this is the down pipe would have to be finished by the customer.
You would get a down pipe but you will have to weld your flange to it.
I think it was built with input from the customer, they have a jig but fab it to the spec's of what the customer is using for a turbo. Yes T6's are nice but there are guys going fairly fast with T4's, like mighty mouse he has a T4 91mm turbo..
09-09-2011, 02:45 PM
#58
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interested but will have to wait to be a non blind faith customer. funds don't allow the purchase ATM.
but if it does retain ac/stock cooling/swaybar I am most interested.
will it be gravity drain or use a scavanger pump?
but if it does retain ac/stock cooling/swaybar I am most interested.
will it be gravity drain or use a scavanger pump?
09-10-2011, 02:48 AM
#60
There are things that I'm not seeing that we would get our heads chopped off for if we left it this way.
One thing that I don't see is an air filter.
If we built a kit for a large turbo like the PT88 It would make more since
to put a T6 flange on it and set it up for a S400.
By doing this a guy could put a $600 S400 on the kit or upgrade the s400
to a 80 or 88 comp wheel and have a lot better turbo for less money.
The PT88 is a good turbo but for the money the S400 is hands down a better choice.
And with a T6 flange a guy could run PT91 up though a PT106.
Rob and I have talked it over and come up with a compromise.
Have a kit that has a interchangeable "feed tube".
You would have your main "Y" and wast gate mount and the tube coming from the "Y" feeding the turbo would be connected use a V-Band.
This feed pipe would allow for a T4 and a T6 flange turbo to be used.
This way a guy could run a large GTS 76 T4 a T4 PT88 0r any T6 turbo
and the main kit would be the same.
The only draw back to this is the down pipe would have to be finished by the customer.
You would get a down pipe but you will have to weld your flange to it.
One thing that I don't see is an air filter.
If we built a kit for a large turbo like the PT88 It would make more since
to put a T6 flange on it and set it up for a S400.
By doing this a guy could put a $600 S400 on the kit or upgrade the s400
to a 80 or 88 comp wheel and have a lot better turbo for less money.
The PT88 is a good turbo but for the money the S400 is hands down a better choice.
And with a T6 flange a guy could run PT91 up though a PT106.
Rob and I have talked it over and come up with a compromise.
Have a kit that has a interchangeable "feed tube".
You would have your main "Y" and wast gate mount and the tube coming from the "Y" feeding the turbo would be connected use a V-Band.
This feed pipe would allow for a T4 and a T6 flange turbo to be used.
This way a guy could run a large GTS 76 T4 a T4 PT88 0r any T6 turbo
and the main kit would be the same.
The only draw back to this is the down pipe would have to be finished by the customer.
You would get a down pipe but you will have to weld your flange to it.