got the car back thurs. raced today.
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From: York, PA
Originally Posted by buschman
With your drivetrain and Dave's power I think the FI F-Bods are gonna shock some people.
Originally Posted by buschman
I'll just hang out with Anne Marie so i don't embaress myself
lol. I went back and watched the video....looked like you dumped the clutch and then bogged bad....then the turbo spools.....WOW....we learned a whole lot.....glad you got to go to the track and drive your car David. Bet it felt weird being at the track. I bet when I go again, I will stage with the back tires like the newbies do 
after watching both vids...(i have no idea what is trying to be proved here - just my observations)
MM -
1. looks like he dumped the clutch out of the hole
2. bogged bad
3. then u hear the turbo spool up and away he goes
4. u can distinctly hear when he shifts..no tires screetch(sp) during shifts
5. u can hear the shifting...car revs up..gas off...shift...gas on (clearly taking time between shifts)
RR -
1. spinning out of the hole
2. slight bog
3. hard 2nd gear shift..tires screech and back drops down
4. you can clearly see everytime RR shifted as the back would drop down
5. looks like close to his 3rd shift..he gets really close to the line - i cant tell if he left off and back on and corrected his direction
turning the sound off
...it is hard to tell when MM is shifting..either his suspension is not making the car drop down or he really isnt shifting to hard.
...you can definitely tell when RR is shifting..back drops..maybe the stock suspension cant handle the back drop.
I dont know...but as far as shifting..it looks like RR is shifting pretty hard...DUE to the back dropping hard..now if he had MM suspension it might not of dropped, I dont know...
But this is just my observations from watching the videos..back...to back..and yeah...i got no work to do today...
MM -
1. looks like he dumped the clutch out of the hole
2. bogged bad
3. then u hear the turbo spool up and away he goes
4. u can distinctly hear when he shifts..no tires screetch(sp) during shifts
5. u can hear the shifting...car revs up..gas off...shift...gas on (clearly taking time between shifts)
RR -
1. spinning out of the hole
2. slight bog
3. hard 2nd gear shift..tires screech and back drops down
4. you can clearly see everytime RR shifted as the back would drop down
5. looks like close to his 3rd shift..he gets really close to the line - i cant tell if he left off and back on and corrected his direction
turning the sound off
...it is hard to tell when MM is shifting..either his suspension is not making the car drop down or he really isnt shifting to hard.
...you can definitely tell when RR is shifting..back drops..maybe the stock suspension cant handle the back drop.
I dont know...but as far as shifting..it looks like RR is shifting pretty hard...DUE to the back dropping hard..now if he had MM suspension it might not of dropped, I dont know...
But this is just my observations from watching the videos..back...to back..and yeah...i got no work to do today...
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From: Virginia
i got interest in shots of the bov location and more ground clearance pics.
car is still lowered with the eibach pro kit springs.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290886QyfrRf
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290899lADhhP
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290915CenPVO
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290930cdeAEr
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290937pyBQaD
car is still lowered with the eibach pro kit springs.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290886QyfrRf
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290899lADhhP
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290915CenPVO
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290930cdeAEr
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...24290937pyBQaD
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From: Charlestown, Indiana
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
95.6 to 128.7 to be specific (33.1 gain). again short time was 1.12
129 trap calculates to roughly 630hp which interestingly enough is what it dynoed
129 trap calculates to roughly 630hp which interestingly enough is what it dynoed
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From: Charlestown, Indiana
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
rear wheel of course
And how did my Z run 128 on 525rwhp?
Where's your timeslip anyway?
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From: Virginia
come on, give it a rest dude. 136 at 3720# using the same calcuator yeilds 740rw.
you can 'blur' the calculation using things like a torque converter.. something your z had.
its just math man, dont look at me. math rocks!
you can 'blur' the calculation using things like a torque converter.. something your z had.
its just math man, dont look at me. math rocks!
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From: Charlestown, Indiana
What the hell are you talking about???
You said that my 136mph wasn't in line with my rwhp at 680. But your 128mph is 630rwhp?? Didn't you go 128mph last year with our turbo kit at 540rwhp???
I'm not blurring anything but your timeslips....
You said that my 136mph wasn't in line with my rwhp at 680. But your 128mph is 630rwhp?? Didn't you go 128mph last year with our turbo kit at 540rwhp???
I'm not blurring anything but your timeslips....
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From: Virginia
129mph is 633hp, 136mph is 740hp and thats the way the cookie crummbulllls. im just reading what the thing says man.. try one for yourself... or i can get out the physics book and derive the whole equation for you.
i did 126.7 once and the rwhp was 523 with as much boost vs. rpm as it would sustain..... i guess chalk that up to the magic your kit is cabable of
i did 126.7 once and the rwhp was 523 with as much boost vs. rpm as it would sustain..... i guess chalk that up to the magic your kit is cabable of
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From: Charlestown, Indiana
Here's the way I see it:
1. You spent like $15,000 on a turbo kit, Gen7, and shipping of your car back and forth accross the country.
2. You actually bother to take your car to the track in "full street trim", with a "race kit", 92 octane gas(??), drag radials that you didn't even bother to check the air in (??come on...
), and no shift light in a six speed car??????
3. You post a video with no timeclock.
4. No timeslips posted yet, but you claim you gained 33mph from the 1/8 to the 1/4. Which I can believe since it's easier to gain 33mph starting from 95mph than it is to gain 30mph starting from 106.
5. You have a 12 Bolt rear end, but 60ft a 2.12?? Who cares if it's sold.....I don't think a 1.8 60ft would have hurt it...If you were that worried about breaking it, why would you have went to the track at all? It could have just as easily broke on the shifts!
6. Exactly what is the point in running in "Street Trim" with a "Race Kit" anyway?
7. After changing from our poorly designed, restrictive log manifold kit that you have bashed all over the net for the last year, you managed to go slower with your your new tubular header'd, ball bearing T80 turbo'd, non-AC'd, can't drive over speed bumps, slower than a stock LS1 Engine with a QMP kit, Gen 7 equipped, Turbo Tech Tuned car? Yet I notice you still post the 11.36 ET as your fastest pass in your Sig...but that was with our kit!!!. And that my son, is funny!
7. I can't believe that nobody has called BS on this yet. And I can't hold it in any longer....So I will!
So bash me all you want now. I just don't care anymore. I can and most importantly, HAVE backed up every claim I made. Unlike you.
1. You spent like $15,000 on a turbo kit, Gen7, and shipping of your car back and forth accross the country.
2. You actually bother to take your car to the track in "full street trim", with a "race kit", 92 octane gas(??), drag radials that you didn't even bother to check the air in (??come on...
), and no shift light in a six speed car??????3. You post a video with no timeclock.
4. No timeslips posted yet, but you claim you gained 33mph from the 1/8 to the 1/4. Which I can believe since it's easier to gain 33mph starting from 95mph than it is to gain 30mph starting from 106.
5. You have a 12 Bolt rear end, but 60ft a 2.12?? Who cares if it's sold.....I don't think a 1.8 60ft would have hurt it...If you were that worried about breaking it, why would you have went to the track at all? It could have just as easily broke on the shifts!
6. Exactly what is the point in running in "Street Trim" with a "Race Kit" anyway?
7. After changing from our poorly designed, restrictive log manifold kit that you have bashed all over the net for the last year, you managed to go slower with your your new tubular header'd, ball bearing T80 turbo'd, non-AC'd, can't drive over speed bumps, slower than a stock LS1 Engine with a QMP kit, Gen 7 equipped, Turbo Tech Tuned car? Yet I notice you still post the 11.36 ET as your fastest pass in your Sig...but that was with our kit!!!. And that my son, is funny!
7. I can't believe that nobody has called BS on this yet. And I can't hold it in any longer....So I will!
So bash me all you want now. I just don't care anymore. I can and most importantly, HAVE backed up every claim I made. Unlike you.
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See.... you messed up MM you should have WAITED till you got everything running right before posting a video. You KNOW people have been waiting to dog this kit out. First time out no less.
You didn't check the tire pressure WTF?
Could some calculate my HP 11.53@123? I always wondered
You didn't check the tire pressure WTF?
Could some calculate my HP 11.53@123? I always wondered
Intmd8 is LT1, turbo, 750-775rwhp, 3700 raceweight, no 60ft, went 138mph.
Take off 100 hp and that's 128 right?
If MM was 3700 raceweight last year and went 128mph he made more than 540rwhp.
Take off 100 hp and that's 128 right?
If MM was 3700 raceweight last year and went 128mph he made more than 540rwhp.
I would think 630RWHP would net him more trap, but he didn't know where he was shifting, sooooooo...........
didn't TWINTURBOCE trap 136MPH with 600RWHP (it was through a TH400 though)
didn't TWINTURBOCE trap 136MPH with 600RWHP (it was through a TH400 though)
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From: Charlestown, Indiana
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Intmd8 is LT1, turbo, 750-775rwhp, 3700 raceweight, no 60ft, went 138mph.
Take off 100 hp and that's 128 right?
Take off 100 hp and that's 128 right?
Funny thing is...3720lbs + 136mph = 685rwhp....which is what I've been claiming on my car, with a **** poor 60ft also.
MM - I did invest in a calculator...that's how I know yours doesn't work!
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
600rwhp with T400 is like 650-700rwhp with a M6.
smokinhawk trapped 126MPH but with 512RWHP (but that was a mustang dyno).