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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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I'm glad dave posted his video. I think we can all clearly see that he wasn't putting everything into the car. These were just shakedown runs to see where he's at. I've seen what Dave can do behind the wheel and all the nay sayers will be bitting their tongues before long. I just think it's gay to slam dave for posting videos of his runs just because they weren't all they could be. This is an FI forum and he posted up his FI run. Not trying to take sides, but I think we know who is trying to instigate and who is trying to move on. Let's just drop this old *** debate and get back to the business at hand. Whoopin up on Juiced LS1s and 03 Cobras

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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glad to see trubo tech on here, if I could just get that crossover pipe from them id be happy and done with the car.

then I can come in here and talk more crap about my car making 1.2billion hp, and running 235 trap speed.

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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Dave- please convince TurboTech to build a TT setup, maybe like the incon, but one that actually ships to the customer.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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You wouldn't have had to if he had installed our kit right. Obviously that's why he had George do it for him this time.

I just think it's really funny all of the trouble he went through to make a slower car.

And I could care less about getting this thread locked or proving anything to you either. Nobody has ever been able to prove anything to you!

In fact, I give you kudo's for having the nerve to post up such a pathetic trip to the track! But who cares if it was your first time...it was my first time with the Formula also. But you jumped at the chance to bash me about it on Camaroz28.com. And what happened over there? They told you to go away too!

Summing it up: You made less power and ran slower than a completely stock car with our turbo kit. The numbers don't lie.

What comes around goes around....
amen brother I would be so ashamed of those times even if all of ur excuses were right. Those times are pathetic. It just shows when u have people doing **** that have no idea what there doing ur going to get the results this jackass got.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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I know Rob is trying to get some payback for all the crap he took from MM about his kit a while back, but this is not the way a respected business man should act. Rob you have way more to lose than an individual by getting involved in this garbage. Take the high road. .02c
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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orange ss, guess you are lucky its my car and not yours, so you can sleep at night.

what does your car run? my guess is it never has been, and you have no clue what it takes to run 130mph
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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MM posted on a Thread on CamaroZ28.com just last week bashing my times. So no, he hasn't dropped it! He also has a Sticky of "Don't Buy from QMP" on his Richmond site. He hasn't dropped it or moved on! I tried, but after his post last week, I realized he wouldn't.

He posted his video and times, and I posted my thoughts about it. And stated only facts. Sorry some people can't deal with facts. Seems it's getting to be the norm around here...
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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Man i missed alot! you guys crack me up. Me and Rob had it out for each other a while back, it was so gay! now its him and MM. hehe. hey i ran 132 with 575 rwhp in a 3696lbs car with my TT set up eveyone said sucked. i started out the season running 12's!!!!!!!! then worked my way down into the mid 10's!!!!!! i had bugs to work out, practice to get and hooking issues. I have my new motor in and some new mods and do not expect to go out first time and bust low 10's.
MM, get those bugs worked out and some seat time, and we'll see what the track brings you in the late spring!!!! Rob, Not everyone has time to do 1?? dyno pulls, 1000 miles(or what ever) every day. or gets as lucky as going 11's in a stock ls1.
hey i could bust your chops about that. i had less power, stock ls1 and i went faster et's. yes i hooked better, but street tire spinning give you higher mph so in reality i beet you last year! I think you and MM have a lagit gripe with oneanother, but some points you make just dont cut it. It makes you look worse argueing with everyone then it does having a post up about not buying from you. you cant please everyone.
Take it easy. why dont you come this way and setle it with a little grudge match. New England Dragway is about 1/2 way for you guys. come on over, after the race beer is on me at my place, and if you want looser will be the beer bitch for the night.
as said befor both cars are somthing to look up to. Just let it ride you know. I see mm just anting to drop it, it is a waist of time. I learded that already.
And PSJ. watch your mouth overthere with the turbo comment. hehe. I'll try to prove you wrong.
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
MM posted on a Thread on CamaroZ28.com just last week bashing my times. So no, he hasn't dropped it! He also has a Sticky of "Don't Buy from QMP" on his Richmond site. He hasn't dropped it or moved on! I tried, but after his post last week, I realized he wouldn't.

He posted his video and times, and I posted my thoughts about it. And stated only facts. Sorry some people can't deal with facts. Seems it's getting to be the norm around here...
Speaking of facts here`s one for ya. why are you the only one that gets these great numbers with your kit? The facts are that the only cars that make high numbers with your kit come out of your shop. So either you are a tuning genius when it comes to ls1 turbos or somthings up.
I was reading another thread on another board about a guy with your kit on a built engine makin 550rwhp and 760rwtq those numbers sound like somone elses that had your kit.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
MM posted on a Thread on CamaroZ28.com just last week bashing my times. So no, he hasn't dropped it! He also has a Sticky of "Don't Buy from QMP" on his Richmond site. He hasn't dropped it or moved on! I tried, but after his post last week, I realized he wouldn't.

He posted his video and times, and I posted my thoughts about it. And stated only facts. Sorry some people can't deal with facts. Seems it's getting to be the norm around here...
It's your call Rob. You're running a business here, not Dave. I think Dave has a right to express his opinion about your kit on his Richmond board. He runs that board, so why not. Did you really think after what happened, anyone from that board was going to buy a QMP kit anyways? So why go there and troll his board? Why even care when you have no potential customers there. It's not even a very big board, just a local board for friends.

I didn't see the CZ28.com post so I can't say. But if he's starting **** up on that board you should probably respond on that board and not bring it over here. I haven't seen Dave taking shots at you on THIS board, but I have seen you knit pick at his times on THIS board. (I'm speaking recently of course).

It was a bad situation all the way around. A lot of finger pointing and no one came out of it happy. Everyone has an opinion but I myself didn't design the LS1, ARE's engine, nor your turbo kit so I can't say for sure where the problem was. I think it's best for both parties that MM and Warbird took their business elsewhere. But you have more to lose from a mud slinging battle than either of them. Might want to just drop it, but that's my $.02.

Mike
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Does it really look like MM has dropped it?

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...5&pagenumber=1

This is a sticky at the top of page daily:
http://www.richmondperformancemuscle...num=1073513081

And I really think it's funny George of Turbo Tech comes to defend MM's times. I guess he didn't read all of posts by MM bashing him for his "street kit" last year.

MyTurboTA - Have I not helped you out with answers to your turbo questions in the past? If you don't like what I have to say about the facts, then fine. But don't call me a liar. Remember, I'm the one that backed up my dyno numbers with track times. But then again, I probably just manipulated the timeclocks at the track too.
And the insinutation that our kit is a copy of the TTi kit is hilarious. Obviously if it was a copy, MM wouldn't have been fooled by it and bought it from us after all of his problems with the TTi kit. The TTi kits have been around now for how long??? And what's the fastest anyone has gone with one? Hmmm....must be something different between their kit and ours......

I've put up with MM and RICE ETR's **** for well over a year now. A month or so ago, I publicly asked to drop it and start over with a clean slate. Instead, he has to make a post on CZ28.com and start it up again right after I ran the Formula. I waited patiently for his results. If they would have been respectable, I would have complimented him on them. But they were pathetic. Why should I have to kiss his a$$?? I owe him nothing. I think he should just buy a pre-built, pre-tuned car and take driving lessons. Then he'll only have himself to blame instead of everyone else everytime something doesn't work out for him.

I guess I should have just been a sheep and followed everyone else's lead. "Congrats MM!! Impressive times!! Wow! How do you do it?? It must be a handful to drive! Great times considering....etc., etc." All the while ignoring the pink elephant in the room (his 128mph timeslip). Sorry, I've ignored enough.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
MyTurboTA - Have I not helped you out with answers to your turbo questions in the past? If you don't like what I have to say about the facts, then fine. But don't call me a liar. Remember, I'm the one that backed up my dyno numbers with track times. But then again, I probably just manipulated the timeclocks at the track too.
And the insinutation that our kit is a copy of the TTi kit is hilarious. Instead, he has to make a post on CZ28.com and start it up again right after I ran the Formula. I waited patiently for his results. If they would have been respectable, I would have complimented him on them. But they were pathetic. Why should I have to kiss his a$$?? I owe him nothing. I think he should just buy a pre-built, pre-tuned car and take driving lessons. Then he'll only have himself to blame instead of everyone else everytime something doesn't work out for him.
Yes you have help me and alot of others and I/We really appreciate that but enough is enough with the flames and insults. I`m not calling you a liar i`m just stating that your results can be Questioned just like your questioning MM results. You didn`t have to post here so why did you? To start stuff.
I thought it was funny how you anounced that you`d be releasing your race kit shortly after TTi released theres. I did`t say your street kit was a copy of TTi`s street kit, just the general design.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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my turbo ta,

I kind of agree with you. Rob really has nothing to prove being in here, most of his threads turn into a slug fest.

and I dont care what rob says that he changed about the TTi kit, his kit looks remarkably similar and the fact that he had a TTi kit on his car allready is purly coincidence im sure.

will be something if his rce kit looks like TTi's, im sure it will there are only so many directions you can go with a turbo kit on these cars due to space. its either going to look like TTi;s or speedinc's really no way around it, but again it could just be coincidence.

rob i think that you are doing yourself no favors making posts like this and bashing former customers. It has made be very weary about thinking of purschasing from you.

good luck to both parties
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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And MM didn't have to post in the CZ28.com post either. So who initiated? and who retaliated?

I guess I should have said our "new race kit". We've always had a race kit available since the beginning. But I can guarantee you this...there are NO SIMILARITIES WHATSOEVER between our new race kit and the TTi race kit. You'll see soon enough.

And FWIW, who copied who? I'm the one who worked with Ed Wright to get the TTi tuning worked out in the first place (don't believe me, ask Ed). I drove over 3600 miles total getting it sorted out! Then George then started buying the programming we worked out from Ed direct. Which is okay, because it's not up to us who Ed sells his programming to. His kit had a 2 1/2" downpipe. Ours had a 3"...then he made a 3" available. Ours had the crossover going under the tranny on 6 speed cars, and his went around the front of the motor and burned through the tie rod boots. Then he made his go under the tranny. Our crossover has always been 2 1/4", TTi's was 2". Then he made his 2 1/4" or 2 1/2" after ours.

Sorry, but I hardly think anyone could logically accuse us of "copying" the TTi kit. As I've said 1000 times....there are no two parts that will interchange. So that accusation is getting real old too.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 69firebird
my turbo ta,

I kind of agree with you. Rob really has nothing to prove being in here, most of his threads turn into a slug fest.

and I dont care what rob says that he changed about the TTi kit, his kit looks remarkably similar and the fact that he had a TTi kit on his car allready is purly coincidence im sure.

will be something if his rce kit looks like TTi's, im sure it will there are only so many directions you can go with a turbo kit on these cars due to space. its either going to look like TTi;s or speedinc's really no way around it, but again it could just be coincidence.

rob i think that you are doing yourself no favors making posts like this and bashing former customers. It has made be very weary about thinking of purschasing from you.

good luck to both parties
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It's amazing how everyone has the right to post their opinion about me posting my opinion. But I don't have the right because "I'm a business"? I find that a bit ironic.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
Does it really look like MM has dropped it?

This is a sticky at the top of page daily:
http://www.richmondperformancemuscle...num=1073513081
Dude, Did you seriously just post that thread? Michelle complains about the **** poor customer service she got from your company. Then you come on and in a most mature fashion insult her(questioning her mentality and saying your company doesn't have time to babysit), insult richmond, give a smartass responce to another customer who complained about their LS1 Motorsports sticker peeling... Need I go on?

Whatever, dig your own hole.

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Raymer
It's amazing how everyone has the right to post their opinion about me posting my opinion. But I don't have the right because "I'm a business"? I find that a bit ironic.

Welcome to the world of business. Suck it up.

Get one of your lackeys to post or post under a ghost name but I am TELLING YOU…. You are doing yourself a great disservice posting like this. It makes people wary.

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1. Commit to quality service. Everyone in the company needs to be devoted to creating a positive experience for the customer. Always try to go above and beyond customer expectations.

2. Know your products. Conveying knowledge about products and services will help you win a customer's trust and confidence. Know your company's products, services and return policies inside out. Try to anticipate the types of questions customers will ask.

3. Know your customers. Try to learn everything you can about your customers so you can tailor your service approach to their needs and buying habits. Talk to people and listen to their complaints so you can get to the root of customer dissatisfaction.


4. Treat people with courtesy and respect. Remember that every contact with a customer — whether it's by email, phone, written correspondence, or face-to-face meeting — leaves an impression. Use phrases like "sorry to keep you waiting," "thanks for your order," "you're welcome," and "it's been a pleasure helping you."

5. Never argue with a customer. You know darn well that the customer isn't always right. But instead of focusing on what went wrong in a particular situation, concentrate on how to fix it. Research shows that 7 out of 10 customers will do business with you again if you resolve a complaint in their favor.

6. Don't leave customers hanging. Repairs, callbacks and emails need to be handled with a sense of urgency. Customers want immediate resolution, and if you can give it to them, you'll probably win their repeat business. Research shows that 95 percent of dissatisfied customers will do business with a company again if their complaint is resolved on the spot.

7. Always provide what you promise. Fail to do this and you'll lose credibility — and customers. If you guarantee a quote within 24 hours, get the quote out in a day or less. If you can't make good on your promise, apologize to the customer and offer some type of compensation, such as a discount or free delivery.

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i'm glad you posted those links rob, i stand behind what i said 100% and obviously you would read my comments on cz28 as being negative... because i wrote them
I would have loved to added that in your fuel system reply you somehow managed to leave out the use of methanol alltogether.. but if i did you would just run your mouth even more about something else. remarks like that are just deceptive and i'd call you on it no matter who you are, and until someone goes on there and corrects your story, they will continue to think (as you described) that you made 775rwhp with a single walbro pump, 57# injectors, and a stock regulator ONLY.

you pay me 500 a month and ill take down my thread on my club website. i'm NOT throwing stones there, i am genuinely looking out for my club members by telling them that i was unhappy with your business... there is some old paperwork in washington DC. that defends my action if you would like a reference.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by buschman
Dude, Did you seriously just post that thread? Michelle complains about the **** poor customer service she got from your company. Then you come on and in a most mature fashion insult her(questioning her mentality and saying your company doesn't have time to babysit), insult richmond, give a smartass responce to another customer who complained about their LS1 Motorsports sticker peeling... Need I go on?

Whatever, dig your own hole.

Mike
That's it...take it all out of context. Overlooking the fact that the whole thread was started as a bash session against us, and to hurt our business.

Lids have stickers...over time they peel. I offered to replace it free. The person who ordered a silver sticker only said to send silver "if we had it." My sales guy told him that he "thought we had one left". We didn't. End of story.
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I would have loved to added that in your fuel system reply you somehow managed to leave out the use of methanol alltogether.. but if i did you would just run your mouth even more about something else. remarks like that are just deceptive and i'd call you on it no matter who you are, and until someone goes on there and corrects your story, they will continue to think (as you described) that you made 775rwhp with a single walbro pump, 57# injectors, and a stock regulator ONLY.
Oh yea, I "deceived everyone". Exactlty. That's why every single detail of the buildup, including the use of methanol is detailed on our website. I didn't even start the thread on CZ28.com!! I just replied to it after I got an email from someone telling me you were running your mouth again. As usual.
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