Attention all stock shortblock players!
09-30-2011, 04:37 PM
#122
Everything in my area is expensive as hell, and the 4.8 i bought, has a significant amount of rust in the cylinders. so i said F that.
I may have to break down and spend some more money. Id like to go after this now with my RX7, will i make the even, probably not, but id like to attempt it, lol
I may have to break down and spend some more money. Id like to go after this now with my RX7, will i make the even, probably not, but id like to attempt it, lol
09-30-2011, 04:58 PM
#127
The rod bolt issue is stupid to complain about if you are okay with aftermarket head bolts. If you want a good head bolt so you lessen the chance of lifting a head why wouldnt you want a good rod bolt? I'd rather blow a head gasket than scatter the bottom end. Where is the logic?
09-30-2011, 05:03 PM
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The rod bolt issue is stupid to complain about if you are okay with aftermarket head bolts. If you want a good head bolt so you lessen the chance of lifting a head why wouldnt you want a good rod bolt? I'd rather blow a head gasket than scatter the bottom end. Where is the logic?
But, I'm a little biased because I have them and I want to run.
09-30-2011, 11:02 PM
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Been working on the website design and we're coming up with a humorous logo and eventually t-shirts ect for competitors. Writing down rules and making more calls ect. Keeping everyone updated as much as possible 
Was at the track tonight and another turbo 5.3 with nitrous was running for the first time tonight on low boost. 5psi = 6.70 in the 1/8th off the footbrake
Was at the track tonight and another turbo 5.3 with nitrous was running for the first time tonight on low boost. 5psi = 6.70 in the 1/8th off the footbrake
10-01-2011, 10:17 AM
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10-01-2011, 10:21 AM
#134
Anytime you tear apart the stock shortblock I don't consider it a stock shortblock anymore, example I think it was tirefryin or someone who wanted to replace the bearings with stock bearings and rings with stock rings(possibly opened up) to create a fresh motor. I don't consider that a stock shortblock anymore, I think it should be just as it came from the junkyard(aka how gm built it), like I've mentioned I think rod bolts should stay stock, but they have become over the years so accepted it's hard to argue with them anymore with so many people wanting to do them and still consider it a stock shortblock.
10-01-2011, 05:24 PM
#135
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Can't it just be double or triple pinned, and then the crank doesn't have to be removed.
We have been pinning all of the aluminum engines we run, even without blowers, because the aluminum engines like to loosen the balancer oddly.
It is easily done, and looks to be pretty hard to break even just one pin.
I still like the idea, of going fast on a stock longblock, but everybody wants to change the gaskets, head bolts, and rod bolts.
So short block it is, now people want to take them apart too.
But, we should have cars that fit anyway it goes, so however the rules end up, I hope it is a success, and we have a some fun.
If you have an engine that can't fit the program, just go get a stock short block to put in the car. And save the other one with the excluding hardware for after you blow the junkyard one up.
We have been pinning all of the aluminum engines we run, even without blowers, because the aluminum engines like to loosen the balancer oddly.
It is easily done, and looks to be pretty hard to break even just one pin.
I still like the idea, of going fast on a stock longblock, but everybody wants to change the gaskets, head bolts, and rod bolts.
So short block it is, now people want to take them apart too.
But, we should have cars that fit anyway it goes, so however the rules end up, I hope it is a success, and we have a some fun.
If you have an engine that can't fit the program, just go get a stock short block to put in the car. And save the other one with the excluding hardware for after you blow the junkyard one up.
10-01-2011, 05:39 PM
#136
Can't it just be double or triple pinned, and then the crank doesn't have to be removed.
We have been pinning all of the aluminum engines we run, even without blowers, because the aluminum engines like to loosen the balancer oddly.
It is easily done, and looks to be pretty hard to break even just one pin.
We have been pinning all of the aluminum engines we run, even without blowers, because the aluminum engines like to loosen the balancer oddly.
It is easily done, and looks to be pretty hard to break even just one pin.
10-02-2011, 04:17 AM
#138
Anytime you tear apart the stock shortblock I don't consider it a stock shortblock anymore, example I think it was tirefryin or someone who wanted to replace the bearings with stock bearings and rings with stock rings(possibly opened up) to create a fresh motor. I don't consider that a stock shortblock anymore, I think it should be just as it came from the junkyard(aka how gm built it), like I've mentioned I think rod bolts should stay stock, but they have become over the years so accepted it's hard to argue with them anymore with so many people wanting to do them and still consider it a stock shortblock.
10-02-2011, 08:04 AM
#139
Stock,to me means stock crank,stock rods and rod bolts,stock rods,mains and cam bearings the way they came from the factory.
No arp rod bolts. Stock gm rod bolts.yes
Heads and head bolts are not part of the short block.
Keep the stock short block 100% stock gm issue rotating assembly
No arp rod bolts. Stock gm rod bolts.yes
Heads and head bolts are not part of the short block.
Keep the stock short block 100% stock gm issue rotating assembly
10-02-2011, 09:58 AM
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Guy#1 "Stock to me means this... blah blah shouldn't be allowed."
Guy#2 "No, NO, stock is this and blah blah blah shouldn't be allowed."
Guy#456 "No stock is when blah blah blah."
Who is going to be the one in charge of pulling the winning engine apart to see who is actually running stock and who is lying? If it's you, are you qualified to say "Those are OEM bearings, but they aren't original!"
It's just $2,500 guys, it's not big enough to get all super picky and technical about it. Just go have fun with it.
Guy#2 "No, NO, stock is this and blah blah blah shouldn't be allowed."
Guy#456 "No stock is when blah blah blah."
Who is going to be the one in charge of pulling the winning engine apart to see who is actually running stock and who is lying? If it's you, are you qualified to say "Those are OEM bearings, but they aren't original!"
It's just $2,500 guys, it's not big enough to get all super picky and technical about it. Just go have fun with it.