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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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just wondering if there would be an advantage to using gapless top ring for my rebuild? Is anyone using them, good or bad expieriences?
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Ive used them a couple of times. They work just fine, and will be using them again
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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I am currently using them. no issues so far with them.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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anything bad about them? why dont more people use them for FI? we should have better leakdown and make more power with them right?
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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I used them on my last rebuild but only got about 300 miles out of the rebuild ;( not the rings fault. Picked up some power def compared to my other rings. I think the only downfall is they will wear faster
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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People probably dont use them as often as they are more expensive. And to say they will wear faster makes no sense at all.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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Thats what total seal told me, they said they dont rec. them for cars that see alot of street time due to the fact of more miles and they will score your cylinder walls over time.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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I agree, why would they wear faster? They don't hold more tension than a standard ring.
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Thats what total seal told me, they said they dont rec. them for cars that see alot of street time due to the fact of more miles and they will score your cylinder walls over time.
Ive used them and never had issue. Dont forget, the "gapless" aspect only applies to one ring in nearly all cases.

In mine it was the top ring. It's a stainless 2 piece affair to create the gapless effect.

But the 2nd and oil rings are just conventional

As long as they are used correctly, bore finish is good, then I see little reason why they would wear faster, and certainly no reason they would score the bores.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Simply what they said, pretty sure it even says it in there catalog.


I also use the top gapless ring set.
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What benifits do you think your seeing from them?
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Originally Posted by lmt0705
What benifits do you think your seeing from them?
Probably very little.

But I have had other plated top rings where the plating has come off the surface. This cannot happen with the stainless ring.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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As far as the gapless top ring goes what are the benifits
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lmt0705
As far as the gapless top ring goes what are the benifits
What benefit could a full circle seal offer against a seal with a gap ?

I think the benefit is obvious, even if in reality it it is only very small.

Normal rings dont have a gap because they want a gap there, it's simply required by design.

Obviously gapless rings do still have a gap, but by design the 2 rings overlap so where the normal gap would be, there is still a solid piece of ring passing over it.

If there really is a measurable difference, it would be incredibly small. Most likely less blowby, and less crankcase pressure.
Power.....doubtful it will really make any difference
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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I am using total seal rings on my setup. They are expensive as people said, around $420 a set for me. My engine builder definitely recommended using them.
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I def seen less blow by and also picked up more power. Dont have a back to back dyno pull diff.
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Sounds like a good idea, would I want a nitrided iron ring,stainless or chrome
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Originally Posted by lmt0705
Sounds like a good idea, would I want a nitrided iron ring,stainless or chrome
AFAIK, gapless top ring comes only in stainless.
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I used Childs and Albert Z-Gap rings on my Grand National. Excellent product.
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