2012 update!
Experimental stuff. Always going to be huge hurdles unless loads came before you and already worked out the bugs.
We'll let you run in front of us and clear the landmines.
Keep plugging away.....
We'll let you run in front of us and clear the landmines.
Keep plugging away.....
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Ok. Callies haven't answered to me in 2 days now so here you have the info.
I blew the gasket at 1900 hp as you can see here:
All sleeves had sunk a bit, i don't care why. I'm sure they are seated now!
When we pulled the engine apart we found that all Callies ultra billet rods where bent so much that one side of the piston have touched the head! So they did'nt handle the pressure at all! I talked to Callies before i ordered them and told them i was going to run 2500 hp.
I have now ordered grp alurods that will be ready next week.
I hope Callies will give me a refound on the rods!
I blew the gasket at 1900 hp as you can see here:
All sleeves had sunk a bit, i don't care why. I'm sure they are seated now!
When we pulled the engine apart we found that all Callies ultra billet rods where bent so much that one side of the piston have touched the head! So they did'nt handle the pressure at all! I talked to Callies before i ordered them and told them i was going to run 2500 hp.
I have now ordered grp alurods that will be ready next week.
I hope Callies will give me a refound on the rods!
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That looks like an h-beam rod to me and their web site states those are good up to 1200hp. I wish you all the luck in the world but I don't see callies refunding you due to that plus it looks like the motor had other issues as well. But again good luck with that!!!
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The picture looks like the regular Ultra H beam rod.
But Ive never seen the billet version so couldnt say for sure if there are visual differences.
A lot will depend on what was asked for, and what was supplied....but then of course whoever built it also may need to assume some responsibility ff the parts were not checked for suitability before using them ( and my Ultras had a clear written warning about this inside the box )
Any part numbers, do the rods say anything on them ?
But Ive never seen the billet version so couldnt say for sure if there are visual differences.
A lot will depend on what was asked for, and what was supplied....but then of course whoever built it also may need to assume some responsibility ff the parts were not checked for suitability before using them ( and my Ultras had a clear written warning about this inside the box )
Any part numbers, do the rods say anything on them ?
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The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material, the Ultra H is designed to satisfy the requirements of the most demanding racing applications.
http://www.callies.com/connecting-rods/
"The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material.
Callies Ultra connecting rods are produced from extremely clean Timken steel that is formulated to our exact specifications. This proprietary steel is forged in Trenton, Michigan, and manufactured 100% in our Fostoria, Ohio facility."
What are you talking about?
The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material, the Ultra H is designed to satisfy the requirements of the most demanding racing applications.
http://www.callies.com/connecting-rods/
All the Ultra rods are made from the same steel!
"The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material.
Callies Ultra connecting rods are produced from extremely clean Timken steel that is formulated to our exact specifications. This proprietary steel is forged in Trenton, Michigan, and manufactured 100% in our Fostoria, Ohio facility."
The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material, the Ultra H is designed to satisfy the requirements of the most demanding racing applications.
http://www.callies.com/connecting-rods/
All the Ultra rods are made from the same steel!
"The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material.
Callies Ultra connecting rods are produced from extremely clean Timken steel that is formulated to our exact specifications. This proprietary steel is forged in Trenton, Michigan, and manufactured 100% in our Fostoria, Ohio facility."
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What are you talking about?
The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material, the Ultra H is designed to satisfy the requirements of the most demanding racing applications.
http://www.callies.com/connecting-rods/
All the Ultra rods are made from the same steel!
"The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material.
Callies Ultra connecting rods are produced from extremely clean Timken steel that is formulated to our exact specifications. This proprietary steel is forged in Trenton, Michigan, and manufactured 100% in our Fostoria, Ohio facility."
The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material, the Ultra H is designed to satisfy the requirements of the most demanding racing applications.
http://www.callies.com/connecting-rods/
All the Ultra rods are made from the same steel!
"The Ultra H-Beam configuration was recently added as part of our expanding connecting rod line. Made from the same premium grade Timken material.
Callies Ultra connecting rods are produced from extremely clean Timken steel that is formulated to our exact specifications. This proprietary steel is forged in Trenton, Michigan, and manufactured 100% in our Fostoria, Ohio facility."
What am I talking about? Well don't have to say much, just look at the picture of that rod, it BENT. A nice set of Howard's billet I beams would have had a much better chance than those h beams obviously did. But never the less he is on the right path going with GRPs.
And again, Andreas nothing but the best of luck to you this time around and I sure hope it all works out for you!!!!
No matter which rod was in that engine, it would've bent, the engine was hydrolocked.
And, Howards doesn't sell a 6.460" LS rod. Both Howards and Callies come from Trenton Forging though (AFAIK)
And, Howards doesn't sell a 6.460" LS rod. Both Howards and Callies come from Trenton Forging though (AFAIK)
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Oh yea, without a doubt that motor had some real issues to cause the damage it did. Very few if any other rods would have survived that episode without some damage. But sure hope it works out in the end. Things tend to happen fast and violent at that level that's for sure.
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Fraser i hope you stay out of this thread!