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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 01:19 AM
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I've been searching the net for a "boost by gear" solution for a near-future upgrade for my Miata swap....I'm not finding much in the way of recent/current products.

Are any of you guys using a controller similar to the old Innovative MSBC-1? I'm wanting something that reads "gear selection" based on the VSS, as the car is a 6-speed. Hell, I'd even go for an MSBC-1 IF I could find one new in the box.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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eboost 2 is very popular.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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I just got the eboost 2 for my car but i dont see how it can do boost by gear without a vss input. Im hoping that it can but i just dont see how with only rpm
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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eb2 can't use VSS. It has to have a 2 wire logic done by 4 switches to dictate 1-2-3-4 gear position mechanically on the shifter.

in any case, I don't think you want VSS to dictate the boost level. If you spin, the VSS goes up, boost goes up, spin more, etc. You want something independent of rear wheel speed, front wheel speed would be ideal.

AMS1000 can do it by time, VSS, or by switches also.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by salemetro
I've been searching the net for a "boost by gear" solution for a near-future upgrade for my Miata swap....I'm not finding much in the way of recent/current products.

Are any of you guys using a controller similar to the old Innovative MSBC-1? I'm wanting something that reads "gear selection" based on the VSS, as the car is a 6-speed. Hell, I'd even go for an MSBC-1 IF I could find one new in the box.

Any thoughts?
Speed Inc sells the Exile controllers for 649.99
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Apexi avc-r has per gear boost for 5 gears.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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eb2 can't use VSS. It has to have a 2 wire logic done by 4 switches to dictate 1-2-3-4 gear position mechanically on the shifter.

in any case, I don't think you want VSS to dictate the boost level. If you spin, the VSS goes up, boost goes up, spin more, etc. You want something independent of rear wheel speed.....
Exactly! I have an eboost2 in my fbody....not what im looking for. I'm thinking that use of a front abs sensor could be fabed up to serve the purpose somehow. I'll look into the other controllers suggested....

Thanks guys!
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Louis had a solution for the EB2 guys a while back.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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most honda ecus do boost by gear based on rpm vs vss. That the only real way to do it
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hks evc 6
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ams1000

i believe those are the only options for boost by gear. I used to use the evc 6, was a pain to get set up. love the **** though
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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The avcr is a pita to setup aswheel but works great after that
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hks evc 6
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i believe those are the only options for boost by gear. I used to use the evc 6, was a pain to get set up. love the **** though
Looks like the EVC6 is the solution....definitely a nice piece. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Ams 1000
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Originally Posted by salemetro
Looks like the EVC6 is the solution....definitely a nice piece. Thanks for the suggestion!
No problem, I loved the one I had on my last car once I got it all set up.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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The ams1000 boost by gear setup is for bikes, not easily done on cars, although it can be done, just not easy like people think, most who recommend it have never even owned one or fully read the manual.
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Lingenfelter makes an adapter to let you use boost by gear by plugging into your VSS. Im going to run that on my eboost2
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLER-LS1
Lingenfelter makes an adapter to let you use boost by gear by plugging into your VSS. Im going to run that on my eboost2
Problem with that, is that front wheel speed is ideal. When breaking traction with a VSS setup, wheel speed increases (obviously)....but worse, so does boost. Unless, that is, you're able to get a signal from a "non-power-driven" wheel.

Interesting information with regards to the adapter....I'll check it out.

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I checked it out... Part Number: L460050000 However, I'm not sure if it could be hooked up to something like a front wheel ABS sensor. My car does not have ABS, but I could swap one of the front knuckles for one that DOES....if the PPM would be the same. I'm not sure what it would be.

I wonder if a Dakota Digital SGI-5 speedometer converter box could be used to convert an ABS sensor signal to "MPH"....interesting. The Dakota Digital DSL2 also looks promising....

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subscribed need to figure this out aswell since i will be ordering one of these controllers soon
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Originally Posted by KILLER-LS1
Lingenfelter makes an adapter to let you use boost by gear by plugging into your VSS. Im going to run that on my eboost2
that does not work on EB2, but it could work with AMS1000.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiago
that does not work on EB2, but it could work with AMS1000.
But if I used a Dakota DSL2, and used it as a fake "rpm" signal output to the Eboost2....getting it's source signal from a front ABS sensor, I'm thinking it might. In said setup, low wheel speed would translate to "low rpm"....the faster the wheel speed, the higher the "rpm" that the Eboost2 would see. So...lower gears= lower boost. Higher gear/wheel speed= higher boost.

I'm open to second opinions here...am I thinking along the correct lines?
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