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Old 05-23-2012, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BottleFedZ346
And it can still only muster a 123mph trap with 609whp, about the same trap speed with a 460-480whp f-body....
True story.
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Shouldn't a 460hp f-body be a good 400-550lbs lighter?
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
well i was thinking more along the lines of better shifting points, track apps, launch control, bigger air cooler, piston squirters, large sump, more oil capacity, new cams, compression changes, bigger heads, thicker headgaskets, and beefier bolts, stronger rods and pistons, slugged crank shaft, new windage tray, and the list keeps on going. it is a huge step past the previous model. the difference now is before you could upgrade to the 700hp package and lose warranty and you payed the same amount plus the upgrade...now you get that same package pretty much standard, BUT BETTER. for around the same price. I was expecting this car to cost more, but it did not.
And dont forget the current setting of 14psi (1atm) being pushed into this 5.8.
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Originally Posted by 4u 2 nv
its not much better $$$ wise. There are none on ebay with buy-it-nows less than $80k.
id imagine that is because they are hard to come buy right now. just like the first zr1 selling for 1 million dollars. I have already been by some of the more prominent dealers to ask when they will have them there.....and they are like ......
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Personally I think this is awesome that you can get that much performance from the show room floor. I do think buying a 5.0 or Boss and then sticking a blower on it is a better value. Most 4th gen camaros/firebirds weight 3,400-3,500 lbs from the factory. The gt 500 is around 3,850 lbs and I think the ZL1 is 4,120 lbs. I would think the gearing could be changed (and tires) to get better trap speeds.

I know I've done a lot of work on my car and it doesn't seem so impressive now that some of these factory cars are getting so close to it in performance. On top of that, these cars have no drivabilty issues. I just think it's funny that so many people are dumping on these cars.

It's almost like you have to use some power adder to keep up.
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When is it going to end? About 10 years ago the 03 cobra had 390 crank hp, now they go and double that almost. So in another 10 short years are we going to have a factory 1200 hp car? This is just another sign that the world is going to end soon.
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i know my car pushing 800+ soon is starting to lose its luster. then again its not as much of a pig as those, but I think I will hit 4 digits and call it quits. lol. i do not see them going past 600-700 from the factory. despite how times change, gravity and traction most likely will not. when the cars start getting so powerful they lose driveability i think the MFG will plateau until new technologies emerge.
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
i do not see them going past 600-700 from the factory. despite how times change, gravity and traction most likely will not. when the cars start getting so powerful they lose driveability i think the MFG will plateau until new technologies emerge.
This!
They'll just keep adding that technology like launch control and track apps etc. But more and more advanced. But by that time you'll probably have to pay a premium to drive a car due to mass transit and cars that drive themselves! LOL
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
So in another 10 short years are we going to have a factory 1200 hp car?
No need to wait 10yrs, just cruise over to your local Bugatti dealer and pick up a Veyron Super Sport.
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
No need to wait 10yrs, just cruise over to your local Bugatti dealer and pick up a Veyron Super Sport.
Id hate to own a Bugatti SS, and have Kelly Bice pull up beside me in a black camaro. Suddenly my 2 million would be sorely missed.
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
id imagine that is because they are hard to come buy right now. just like the first zr1 selling for 1 million dollars. I have already been by some of the more prominent dealers to ask when they will have them there.....and they are like ......
true true...friend at another local lot said they are $8k minimum mark up and they are getting 5 and they are already sold. 1 was sold with a $13k markup.
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I raced a Gt500 last week at the local drag strip. Both our sixty foots were crap (2.xx) but I trapped at 126.03 while he trapped at 121.01. My first pass that night yielded a 128.96 mph trap speed. This is at Lebanon Valley in upstate NY with a thunderstorm minutes away. The track closed due to heavy thunderstorms 5 minutes later so we had high elevation AND high humidity. I was running 15psi that night.
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motor trends 200 mph test. they have the numbers at 58x/590 sooooooo......guess fords dyno is bs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRuE38Bl5Mo
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livernois dyno put down 601 hp and 613...

Soooooooo
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How is Fords Dyno BS? you know that the numbers ford uses are certified by SAE standards, the same people have to certify every car. RWHP should be different than flywheel
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it may not be. after all it is just a tool. plus arizona , as said, is hell on earth
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Livernois made 613 with the first privately owned car on the dyno the best trap to date is 127. It trapped 124.5 with Evan Smith driving it on its 20th consecutive hot lap if thats not impressive I don't know what is. Keep in mind you are getting 3 year 36k bumper to bumper and 5 year 50k on the powertrain! I cant wait to my clients car comes in.

Originally Posted by 72montecarlo
I work at a dealership and getting things like gt500's boss 302's doesn't come at msrp
Can I work at your dealership because I sold one of our 13 cobras for measly sticker!
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some of ya'll are kidding me right? That new GT500 is badass! Period! As a person that isn't brand loyal its great seeing the hp wars and two of the American car companies producing some killer rides. I would take a new 5.0 automatic over any other mass produced car today! Hopefully GM and Chrysler comes back with another counter attack with a rival car. Look around everybody this is the second power war this country has seen from the big three.... enjoy it.
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I am impressed that someone hot lapped 20x without blowing up! Like the other fi fords! I would be surprised if a ford dynoed rated power. That must be a first I wonder how bad the fuel economy was overrated?
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
I would think a good bit. I am pretty sure the stock tune is not as conservative as we'd imagine (cant wait to see some logs) but I believe the compression ratio was raised as well in effort to raise the power going from 8:5:1 to 9:2:1. Dont quote me on that, but I know that the compression ratio is def on down enough to justify 93. The main focus according to Jammal Hameedi was engine temps.

That is the second person in 24 hours who told me to put a blower on the ZL1. Thats just the problem. It does have one, and I believe its another version of that same blower. No doubt the zl1 will be a better track car, but correct me if I am wrong.....90% of us are straighline performance folk.
john lund tuned.......


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